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1. To make sure no one else takes away crown of being fastest SUV on the planet 2. Possibly they use X6M as a guiney pig to test new powertrain so it could be used in other applications? 3. BMW has enough dough to put into X6 to enhance it even further, since it's been such a success from day one P.S. A few friends I know originally wanted to buy X5 and X3, now they're hooked on this thing It's a disease... Last edited by AndreyATC; 06-16-2011 at 12:20 AM.. |
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06-16-2011, 12:32 AM | #24 |
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The hood looks like a modified Hybrid Power Bulge type.
I believe the X6M is running about 17.4 psi. maximum boost, but that level is probably only achieved with the higher octane gas such as 93, or when mixing unleaded racing gas. More boost would make more power, but risk detonation and reliability. If they can run 21 lbs. that would really be sweet, as long as the gas can support it, and prevent detonation. The new M5 engine specifications list 95 octane as the minimum, with 98 preferred! That is race gas around here. Also, the picture of the new M5 engine shows much larger intercoolers fitted. The intercoolers may be a slight bottleneck and they are now going to address that in the next engine revision, as well as installing the new twin-scroll turbochargers. I would also guess that they may be shooting for the 600 HP level, but not much more than that. I am happy with the power level of the M, and more power has proven to break some things. So, I would bet that there would need to be some other modifications to increase the strength of some components to be reliable at a higher power level. Last edited by LANDLORD; 06-16-2011 at 01:06 AM.. |
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Pointless car. It will either be an LCI update with the M5 engine, or it will be a car that will end up on display with the M3 utility... Surely?
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I Noticed that even the hood color matching to hybrid's They must have just took one from hybrid and taped it up a bit Quote:
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If so 95 EU = 91 US and 98 EU = 93 US It would not make sence to have M5 running other preferred fuel from the rest of BMW lineup |
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06-16-2011, 10:21 AM | #30 |
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It gets a (subtle) increase in power but will remain under 600 horse power.
With minor changes to the aerodynamics and 20" wheels. The focus is on the car's weight and significant changes to the overall feel of the car. X6M is hugely profitable for BMW and a huge seller in priority and emerging economies.
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06-17-2011, 12:24 AM | #33 |
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Could this be Euro octane spec?
If so 95 EU = 91 US and 98 EU = 93 US It would not make sence to have M5 running other preferred fuel from the rest of BMW lineup[/QUOTE] Yes, I keep forgetting the Euro spec is different. Thanks for pointing that out. I did not think it made sense if those numbers were for the US. I guess the new turbo's are more efficient, and the intercoolers will reduce the heat further, so 21 lbs. now becomes possible. I wonder why the horsepower and torque numbers are not much larger than the current M engine with these changes? I did not see the weight of the new M5 but it is surely going to feel good with this engine in there. |
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Any info on release of this special edition? After that E46 M3 took out my brothers X6M on the way to Mfest, he's ready to buy another one. I hope this is announced soon.
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What was done to the M? Because I have a 50 with a tune and tuned 335's can barely keep up. Maybe he should invest the 1500 in a tune instead of buying a brand new car... If he is simply looking to be King of the Road.
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Please excuse me for saying so, but a ///M is always different then a non M. It not about the speed or horse power but they are different cars. It's the intracacies of an M car and the lineage. If you just want to talk about raw performance and bang for the buck, I can find a Honda Civic that can beat exotic cars all day long for the price less then the ceramic brakes that are on them.
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06-30-2011, 01:56 AM | #40 |
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I believe the M has many enhancements over the other types including:
Different body parts on the front ,rear, and sides including the ///M fender and turning light and the painted wheel arches. Quad exhaust tips too. Much better Brembo brakes with powder coated large front calipers,larger light weight rotors, high performance ceramic pads. M steering wheel with shift paddles and M button to allow quick program changes. Engine with stronger components such as a cast aluminum oil pan and pulse tuned exhaust manifold and twin scroll turbos. There is a big difference here in power delivery. 155 more Horsepower and 50 lb.ft. more torque. No tuning needed, under warranty. Transmission with Launch control and different programming for faster shifts. Lower ratio final drive gears, the same as the 6, allows the engine to rev faster. Different side mirrors that are more aerodynamic. True rarity in numbers produced for sale. This will show up in a higher resale value. ///M door sills and ///M footrest along with ///M stitching in the steering wheel and ///M on the headrests and gear selector and in the instrument cluster. Different suspension tuning with a lower ride height and shock and antiroll programming along with a rear biased X-drive. Heads up display is standard along with the ///M mode in the display. Decent looking wheels that are only available on the ///M. Large capacity air cleaner. Carbon Fiber leather trim option Higher governed top speed of 155 mph. Exclusive colors available such as Monte Carlo Blue, Melbourne Red and Carbon Black. To each his own choice, but if you want the best X6, it has got to be the ///M. People respond to this car for its many special features. |
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I have had ///M cars before, and my next car will be the new M5. I know there are differences and the ///M version of a car is the best one. I have driven both, and after lowering mine and tuning it, the difference is minimal. Mine actually handles better with the wider tires and wheels than the ///M. I bought the X6 with alot of mods in mind, which in my opinion it needed. The response I get from people that see it I don't believe would be matched by a stock X6M. This post and my previous was mainly for the fellow that compared a tuned BMW X6 to a hooked up Honda Civic... not quite.
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The biggest differences between these two (those you really feel) is mostly in engine and suspension Only M rides on air suspension and has active rear diff It rides like luxury car in normal mode and it's much-much more comfortable than 50i, but once you hit that "M" button, it transforms it to much sportier car than 50i LANDLORD covered pretty much everything else Edit: Wheels are forged |
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