F1 2021: Qatar GP - Losail (Nov 21)

[minn19]

Originally Posted by F87source

Videos are one thing, what matters is the FIA inspection.

You’d think DAS would be pretty hard to hide but what do I know.

[Steeler]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

'Believe' it's not hard.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by dbarton62

I can already envision the excuses should Junior not win the WDC.

That's why they gaslight the w12, so if max loses they can say that Lewis has the faster car, they're also saying the FIA is helping Mercedes as well....

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by F87source

Same way max didn't get a penalty for pushing Lewis extremely wide, same way RB was allowed to fix their wing but Mercedes wasn't.

Sometimes the FIA does stupid calls. But if there was a double flag then max gets 5 places, single is 3. i.e. there wasn't favoritism...

I would agree if Max got the flash on his dash but the stewards saying they felt some 'sympathy' is complete b@lls ,it is actually they that screwed up and tailored the rules to suit their own shaky narrative..you know I'm right.
Still waiting for their explanation..............

[F87source]

Originally Posted by minn19

You’d think DAS would be pretty hard to hide but what do I know.

Especially since the FIA would be looking for it particularly carefully on the team that invented it.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by F87source

I do not know why the safety car didn't come out, but again more speculation followed your comment.


My real question is how do bikes race this track? If they hit the curb they'd go flying off the bike.

My statement Isn't speculation It's a fact ! Half the world is wondering why the F* pace car didn't showed up ..

Bikes ?
That's pretty simple . They stay away from it AMAP .

-Carry on .

[F87source]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

I would agree if Max got the flash on his dash but the stewards saying they felt some 'sympathy' is complete b@lls ,it is actually they that screwed up and tailored the rules to suit their own shaky narrative..you know I'm right.
Still waiting for their explanation..............

My initial statement was in regards to if the penalty Bottas and max received was fair in regards to the flag type and thus debunking favoritism, not if the FIA made the right call.

Because we all know the FIA makes great calls....

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by minn19

You’d think DAS would be pretty hard to hide but what do I know.

Originally Posted by F87source

Especially since the FIA would be looking for it particularly carefully on the team that invented it.

THE '2021 BRAZILIAN-GP !!!

BTW : I don't need glasses to see that !!!

[F87source]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

My statement Isn't speculation It's a fact ! Half the world is wondering why the F* pace car didn't showed up ..

Bikes ?
That's pretty simple . They stay away from it AMAP .

-Carry on .

The safety car part was a valid question, but the other half speculating a collaboration with Mercedes and the FIA is wack.


Maybe there were so many stones it would be impossible to clean up without sweeping which would mean a full redflag was needed, maybe they didn't think it was necessary idk. It wasn't like there was a couple big parts that the Marshall's could easily grab. It was like a bunch of small stones.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by F87source

My initial statement was in regards to if the penalty Bottas and max received was fair in regards to the flag type and thus debunking favoritism, not if the FIA made the right call.

Because we all know the FIA makes great calls....

Is Masi perhaps part of your family ?

[________]

Originally Posted by SteveChester

Great race today from the goat. Momentum has turned towards Mercedes especially with the power circuits coming up. Title number 8 coming up for Lewis but they need Bottas to raise his game in the constructors now.

Grid penalty's very harsh including Maxs.

A 5 grid penalty for jeopardizing safety is too harsh?

[minn19]

Originally Posted by F87source

Especially since the FIA would be looking for it particularly carefully on the team that invented it.

That’s what I’m thinking, if FIA actively ignored the fact that MB put DAS back on the car it would be an easy lawsuit for RB to win. I imagine it’s quite a few parts no?

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

THE '2021 BRAZILIAN-GP !!!

BTW : I don't need glasses to see that !!!

IIRC when they had DAS the movement on the steering wheel from BOT and HAM was much more pronounced. Show the video of the tires changing alignment in conjunction with this video. Or show from when they had it last year to now in the same corner etc. Do some real work here and try to prove your accusation.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

THE '2021 BRAZILIAN-GP !!!

BTW : I don't need glasses to see that !!!

It doesn't mean it's das...

1) F1 cars are highly adjustable, maybe steering position adjustment was worn out allowing a but of play. it's not impossible for this to occur seeing how many times an F1 car is disassembled and reassembled.

2) maybe steering position was a bit loose during the race, Mercedes received their car super late in Brazil so it could have been rushed.


So unless you have proof it was being used in every race then it is more likely a fluke vs. a feature.


Don't forget when drs was used last year all the teams and analysts immediately caught it and showed footage of the front wheels toeing in and out with the steering wheel. Nothing was said this time, and since only the anti Mercedes people are talking about it, likely it is just jealousy and hate propagated against Mercedes.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by F87source

The safety car part was a valid question, but the other half speculating a collaboration with Mercedes and the FIA is wack.


Maybe there were so many stones it would be impossible to clean up without sweeping which would mean a full redflag was needed, maybe they didn't think it was necessary idk. It wasn't like there was a couple big parts that the Marshall's could easily grab. It was like a bunch of small stones.

Tell that to Russell and Latifi ...

BOT's tyre blew over the curbs . And he stuffed the track with a lot of crap ...

BOT was also a big danger for the other cars !!!
Same situation for Russell and Latifi ..

Yeah ...Let's talk about the safety !
Honestly the safety s@cked big time ..

If the safety car did came out , we would have seen (probably) another race ...

[F87source]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Is Masi perhaps part of your family ?

Nah, if he was then I wouldn't be watching F1 from a tv and talking with you guys. I'd be at the races.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Tell that to Russell and Latifi ...

BOT's tyre blew over the curbs . And he stuffed the track with a lot of crap ...

BOT was also a big danger for the other cars !!!
Same situation for Russell and Latifi ..

Yeah ...Let's talk about the safety !
Honestly the safety s@cked big time ..

If the safety car did came out , we would have seen (probably) another race ...

Their tires blew from the curbs not the small stones. Again don't get to me I don't control the safety car.

Even with the safety car I doubt max had a chance to beat Lewis.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by F87source

Their tires blew from the curbs not the small stones. Again don't get to me I don't control the safety car.

Even with the safety car I doubt max had a chance to beat Lewis.

With the 1) safety car and 2) without the 5 place grid penalty Max would had every chance of winning with Ham not having the rocket PU.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by F87source

It doesn't mean it's das...

1) F1 cars are highly adjustable, maybe steering position adjustment was worn out allowing a but of play. it's not impossible for this to occur seeing how many times an F1 car is disassembled and reassembled.

2) maybe steering position was a bit loose during the race, Mercedes received their car super late in Brazil so it could have been rushed.


So unless you have proof it was being used in every race then it is more likely a fluke vs. a feature.


Don't forget when drs was used last year all the teams and analysts immediately caught it and showed footage of the front wheels toeing in and out with the steering wheel. Nothing was said this time, and since only the anti Mercedes people are talking about it, likely it is just jealousy and hate propagated against Mercedes.

Ahhh...Now I see ! And I understand it completely !

"IN 2018 AS WELL" ???

Check out HAM's Mercedes was still silver-coloured at the '2018 Hungarian GP !
It's actually really amazing that DAS worked already so well in 2018 ?
Isn't it ?

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Ahhh...Now I see ! And I understand it completely !

"IN 2018 AS WELL" ???

Check out HAM's Mercedes was still silver-coloured at the '2018 Hungarian GP !
It's actually really amazing that DAS worked already so well in 2018 ?
Isn't it ?

Marko has just said Max's penalty for Fia comms screwing up is simply unacceptable. MercaFIA.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by F87source

Their tires blew from the curbs not the small stones. Again don't get to me I don't control the safety car.

Even with the safety car I doubt max had a chance to beat Lewis.

Negative . MAX would had a (better) chance without the 5 P penalty + the (invisible) safety car .
Let us not forget that MAX was for about 10 laps between 0.3/0.5 sec. faster than HAM .
But then ..His tyres were gone by pushing like crazy ..

[TheBingoBalls]

It's going to be an interesting last couple of weeks. I'm wondering if the RB is fully tapped out with regards to performance. We don't know what the W12 is fully capable of since Mercedes reverted back to an older PU.

Drivers still have to race but if we're going off strictly pace/numbers and RB is maxed out, it doesn't look good for Red Bull for the last 2 races. But a lot can happen and VER needs to win one of the last two races barring any retirements from accidents.

But it would be kind of hilarious if Mercedes was sandbagging the entire season to close out this era of F1 before the new regulations begin next season.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Ahhh...Now I see ! And I understand it completely !

"IN 2018 AS WELL" ???

Check out HAM's Mercedes was still silver-coloured at the '2018 Hungarian GP !
It's actually really amazing that DAS worked already so well in 2018 ?
Isn't it ?

But no evidence toe angle changed...

Who knows maybe it controls other aspects of the car (maybe brake bias for instance), but so long as it doesn't alter toe angle then its not das...