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Yeah the E46, E39 and E38 were all all just so bad....
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03-07-2021, 01:12 AM | #48 | ||
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03-07-2021, 03:58 AM | #50 | ||
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However, if we look at the hints from lemetier, the head of design's statements in the Supercarblondie video as well as the context of what they are talking about in that German YouTube video, it corresponds to more of a traditional M-type of car. My guess (hope) is that it will be a special model based on a production platform, but with the P58 engine, transaxle transmission and hybrid technology. Like the test mule we saw last year at the Nürburgring. After all, May 1st 2022 is the 50th anniversary of BMW M and the E9 3.0 CSL |
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03-07-2021, 05:06 AM | #54 | |
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Their EVs are subpar, largely because they're not investing in dedicated EV platform. And they've alienated the "old school" enthusiast offerings due to numb feeling cars, big weight gain, and abandoning bespoke components like DCT. I do appreciate the manual but that's mostly just a carry-over. It's going to be really interesting to see how all this plays out over the next decade and what approach is most successful. |
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03-07-2021, 06:34 AM | #55 | |
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The early years, featuring Jochen Neerpasch (what a ///Man). About the colors: 02:00-02:50 (note: for sure he meant "the Bavarian colors" instead of "the Bahrein colors"): The only marketing back then: show up at a race track and give it the beans. How the car performs is what matters in the end + form follows function (rather than form follows marketing): Some more throwback trivia: "Why is the later 3.0 CSL sometimes referred to as the "Batmobile"?The removable "racing kit":
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The quote «It's not a question» was his response to if there will be such a special model. Meaning it wasn't just a case study, but that there was a firm decision to make the car. |
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03-07-2021, 07:10 AM | #57 |
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Suuuuuuuuure. The best BMW's gonna do is a flashier upholstery, more <insert "special" edition name here> badges, +20-25k$ increase in sticker price, a few "individual" (loud skittles) colors and a N'ring embroidery on the headrest and a few more places.
Most importantly, no performance upgrades whatsoever!
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03-07-2021, 07:45 AM | #58 | |
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So my guess it there will be the "M only" X8M, and the (foreseen by yngoldyn) CSL (M4 based I guess? Or maybe M8?), possibly with the P58 and additional racing goodies as hinted at by Lemetier. That would already be much more than "just some new exterior colors and interior stitching with a 20k markup", but I have to admit that this could just as well be a "Sondermodell" (and a letdown), let's see. |
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They even admitted in the interview that the concepts received positive reactions from press and customers, yet they don't want to do it. : Meanwhile, Ford made a new retro-styled Bronco, and received hundreds of thousands of pre-orders, and Mercedes' retro-styled G-Wagon is so in demand and sought after that its sold out for two model years with ADM's as high as $75k. But ok BMW, make an X8M, because apparently designing a retro-styles sports car would mean the brand would be more lost doing that than making a two ton plus X8 M flagship SUV.
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The amount of M badging and general gaudiness in the M's is just a turn-off. As an example, the M5 should be this super luxurious stealth road rocket barely discernible from a regular 5 on the outside - except for 3 things (quad exhaust tips, the side marker lights, and the M5 logo). Instead, it seems to be something that has an insane amount of gaudiness (red paddle shifters, red ignition button, really?) and M logos plastered everywhere (case in point, the new M5 has illuminated M5 badges just below the headrest - wtf seriously why?) <end rant> |
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03-08-2021, 01:17 AM | #65 | ||
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That being said, the F90 isn't bad - park one next to an M Sport 5 series and I doubt most people would know the difference.
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03-08-2021, 04:51 AM | #66 |
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An another limited edition model. Just what we needed.
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