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      04-18-2018, 01:30 PM   #1
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Heavy Vibration through chassis/engine bay?

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When I rev the engine the car vibrates throughout the body, I have noticed no drops in performance or anything else that would highlight any easy to spot fixes

There is also a lot of shaking occuring when the car is idle, when I rev the car the shaking stops but there is more of a vibration and an audible grounding noise?? (really hard to explain) when it hits about 2k revs and gets workse at about 3k revs

I filmed this which shows the extent of the shaking in idle - the gearstick is probably the most visible area in relation to the problem:




Just after the revs drops you can hear the rattling/shaking which is coming from the gearstick

From the engine bay everything sounds normal, you can not hear anything peculiar coming from that area, but you can feel it and hear it more from sitting in the front part of the car

Hopefully the video helps because its really hard to explain

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      04-18-2018, 01:32 PM   #2
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]Hi there

When I rev the engine the car vibrates throughout the body, I have noticed no drops in performance or anything else that would highlight any easy to spot fixes

There is also a lot of shaking occuring when the car is idle, when I rev the car the shaking stops but there is more of a vibration and an audible grounding noise?? (really hard to explain) when it hits about 2k revs and gets workse at about 3k revs

I filmed this which shows the extent of the shaking in idle - the gearstick is probably the most visible area in relation to the problem:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20nW...ature=youtu.be

Just after the revs drops you can hear the rattling/shaking which is coming from the gearstick

From the engine bay everything sounds normal, you can not hear anything peculiar coming from that area, but you can feel it and hear it more from sitting in the front part of the car

Hopefully the video helps because its really hard to explain
Engine mounts. Pop the hood, have someone rev the engine while you look at the motor. Does the motor move back and forth? If so, it's your motor mounts.
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      04-18-2018, 01:47 PM   #3
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Engine mounts. Pop the hood, have someone rev the engine while you look at the motor. Does the motor move back and forth? If so, it's your motor mounts.
Doesnt seem like it? All looks normal to me, then again I am no expert lol..

Here's a video I filmed a few minutes ago:



Edit: If you focus on the engine there is a bit of side to side movement? Just noticed in the video now...


Just to mention formula one autocentres said he reckons it is a gearbox mounting after putting it up on ramp very briefly and said take it to main dealer!!

A local garage who were very rude said it is the dual mass flyweel, without even sitting in the car and I was revving it for them while he was standing outside

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Same as this, guessing its the clutch & dual mass flywheel then??

The car has hit around 115000 miles - is this when they start needing to be replaced?
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I have a similar issue, usually around the 2-3k mark on the tach, sometimes at idle too
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I have a similar issue, usually around the 2-3k mark on the tach, sometimes at idle too
Yeah exactly, it seems worst at those revs..

How many miles are you on? Have you got it diagnosed yet?
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Yea that video of the engine bay looks rough.. would definitely consider changing the mounts for engine and transmission (might as well as its easy and cheap).
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Yea that video of the engine bay looks rough.. would definitely consider changing the mounts for engine and transmission (might as well as its easy and cheap).
Oh so you think it's the engine bay mounts??

I had a strong feeling it would've been the DMF and clutch that needs replacing? Can you tell from my video?

The clutch and DMF cost 1k plus for oem parts and labour so hoping it's not that

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Oh so you think it's the engine bay mounts??

I had a strong feeling it would've been the DMF and clutch that needs replacing? Can you tell from my video?

The clutch and DMF cost 1k plus for oem parts and labour so hoping it's not that
1k plus? I changed the clutch in my 325i about 18 months ago for 500£ at an independent garage in London. Turned out they changed it without it being worn out or faulty so got 400£ back as a full service and MOT
But 1000£ seems a little too much.
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so got 400£ back as a full service and MOT
But 1000£ seems a little too much.
Omg you lucky guy haha, well I'm only in Kent so I can get some quotes off London garages.. I don't mind driving an extra 30 miles to save 500 quid

Hopefully it is just the engine bay mounts but I haven't clarified it yet.. Hoping the videos I posted would've been able to help.
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Omg you lucky guy haha
I argued a lot with them because they didn't keep the old clutch for me to inspect and the changing of the clutch didn't fix my issue.
I took the car to them for a slight whining sound when the car was in second gear mainly below 2500rpms. They said is the clutch even though there were no other symptoms of a worn clutch. Sound is still there to this very day so I accepted it as normal.
I wrote a bad review for their garage on Google and other websites so I got the 400£ in exchange for taking down the bad reviews.
Be careful as many mechanics are terrible and might change shit that doesn't need changing.
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Oh so you think it's the engine bay mounts??

I had a strong feeling it would've been the DMF and clutch that needs replacing? Can you tell from my video?

The clutch and DMF cost 1k plus for oem parts and labour so hoping it's not that
What mileage (KM?) are you at? A good way to check if it's engine mounts is if you pop the hood and have someone rev the engine (don't go crazy and redline) and see if the engine shifts position (side to side) a lot, if it does thats likely the engine mounts. See below video for reference:



I'm not experienced enough to tell you if it could be the DMF or clutch.
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I wrote a bad review for their garage on Google and other websites so I got the 400£ in exchange for taking down the bad reviews.
Be careful as many mechanics are terrible and might change shit that doesn't need changing.
Thanks for that mate, will keep a lookout and cautious when I get my car seen to, I am looking at a BMW independent specialist in Dartford at the moment, wish me luck

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What mileage (KM?) are you at?
181855.872 exactly haha, which is quite high, so these problems start happening at this mileage and parts start becoming worn out etc...

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A good way to check if it's engine mounts is if you pop the hood and have someone rev the engine (don't go crazy and redline) and see if the engine shifts position (side to side) a lot, if it does thats likely the engine mounts.

I'm not experienced enough to tell you if it could be the DMF or clutch.
Yeah thanks for that my engine doesn't seem to be doing anything close to that Merc engine (that was some crazy movement haha), so it's probably looking like the clutch from here...
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