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      12-10-2014, 12:00 AM   #1
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Replacing vacuum pump DYI on N63

Has anyone out there tried to replace a vacuum pump on X6M? How complicated is it? Can it be DIY type of weekend project? Any links to a DIY or images?
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I heard about this going bad prematurely.
But what is the symptom?

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      12-10-2014, 11:56 PM   #3
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I heard about this going bad prematurely.
But what is the symptom?

TIA
Symptom is a burning oil/plastic type of smell from outside as well as inside when exhaust is hot. I know that the problem is with vacuum pump leaking since this is diagnostics I got from my local BMW dealership. They quoted me $2,500 for the repair (parts+labor). I can get a new genuine BMW vacuum pump p/n: 11668605976 (for $200 - new no box), and O-Ring for $3 p/n: 11668605976. Just want to see if anyone attempted to replace it themselves and have any input on this DIY. Apparently repair manual is allowing 8 hours for this job.
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Vacuum Pump - DIY - short write up with pictures

I finally received new Vacuum Pump for my 2011 X6M p/n: 11668605976 ($200 new, genuine oem BMW - no box). Removed the old leaking one and installed new one. (local authorized BMW dealership offered to do this job for $2000 labor + $500 parts = $2500, when I asked why so expensive, was told 9.5 hours of labor). Took me 4.5 hours all together from start to end, total cost: $200 + my own time:

- Remove plastic engine cover
- Remove filters from passenger's side
- Remove plastic engine trim passenger's and driver's side
- Disconnect and remove oxygen sensors - passenger's side
- Remove heat shield from top of the catalytic converters
- Remove heat shield next to the vacuum pump (passenger's side)
- Disconnect Vacuum Pump
- Loosen three bolts holding old vacuum pump (E8 Torx External)
- Remove old vacuum pump
- Rotate new vacuum pump to match same position as the old one
- Install new vacuum pump and torque three E8 bolts
- Re-assemble all components in reverse order
- Done (4.5 hours)
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wow thanks man!
Mine you can really see the oil leak in the bottom... but same smell you're describing about.
the culprit is vacuum pump as well... btw how can i get that discount for the pump?..lol!
cheapest quote i found was $1500 indy.. this is awesome!
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BTW Igor.. just saw this thread... there's a campaign to fix this? sorry
This is a 2-part campaign by BMW for cars with the N63 engine. It was announced on 12/29/2014 and called "N63 Customer Care Package", bulletin B001314. The highlights are:

- check the timing chain for stretch; replace if necessary
- check the following items and replace if necessary: fuel injectors, mass air flow sensors, crankcase vent lines, battery, engine vacuum pump, low pressure fuel sensor
- change the oil service interval to 12 months/10,000 miles

Even if your car is out of warranty (ie, 5 years old and has 200k miles), it is covered by this campaign and costs the owner nothing. The dealers are instructed to call all N63 owners in their area and schedule the cars to come in for this service, pending the dealership's availability. The dealership is instructed to provide a loaner car of equal or higher class to the customer (per N63 Customer Care Package Outbound Service Script document).

BMW is also offering extra incentives for owners affected by this campaign to trade in their N63 vehicle and purchase a new car (called the N63 Customer Loyalty Offer, details in a separate sales bulletin).

Also associated with this campaign is the "N63 Customer Appreciation Program". The dealerships are authorized to provide the customer with a gift of $50 value. This could be a gas card, gift bag containing BMW Lifestyle products, vehicle detailing,etc.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...80#post8818280
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wow thanks man!
Mine you can really see the oil leak in the bottom... but same smell you're describing about.
the culprit is vacuum pump as well... btw how can i get that discount for the pump?..lol!
cheapest quote i found was $1500 indy.. this is awesome!
Alex, $1500 indy is better than $2500 stealership. Not sure how daring you are, but I took time and replaced it myself. The whole thing ended up costing me $200 for new pump plus my 4.5 hours (which I actually enjoyed spending on my car
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Does this include X5M? Or just 50i's?

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Does this include X5M? Or just 50i's?

Thanks!
I think that on 50i vacuum pump is located in front of the engine, on X5M and X6M, S63 engine, it is located in the back of the engine. With front of the engine location, access to the pump is much better than back of engine location. On mine X6M it is located in the back. As I mentioned earlier, took me a total of 4.5 hours to replace.
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I think that on 50i vacuum pump is located in front of the engine, on X5M and X6M, S63 engine, it is located in the back of the engine. With front of the engine location, access to the pump is much better than back of engine location. On mine X6M it is located in the back. As I mentioned earlier, took me a total of 4.5 hours to replace.
Its also in the back Igor,for my X5 50i.. but after seeing that recall notice, I called East Bay BMW and my car is covered..i told them my car cant wait for the recall notice since the vacuum pump is leaking so I confirmed an appt on the 19th to check everything for the N63 customer care package.. heres the link from top speed..
http://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-new...6918.html#main

all these are affected:
F01 and F02 (7 Series Sedan) produced from 3/2009 to 6/2012
F04 (Active Hybrid 7) produced from 4/2010 to 6/2012
F07 (Gran Turismo) produced from 9/2009 to 6/2012
F10 (5 Series Sedan) produced from 3/2010 to 7/2013
F12 (6 Series Convertible) produced from 3/2011 to 7/2012
F13 (6 Series Coupe) produced from 7/2011 to 7/2012
E70 (X5) produced from 3/2010 to 6/2013
E71 (X6) produced from 7/2008 to 6/2014
E72 (ActiveHybrid X6) produced from 9/2009 to 9/2011
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Its also in the back Igor,for my X5 50i.. but after seeing that recall notice, I called East Bay BMW and my car is covered..i told them my car cant wait for the recall notice since the vacuum pump is leaking so I confirmed an appt on the 19th to check everything for the N63 customer care package.. heres the link from top speed..
http://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-new...6918.html#main

all these are affected:
F01 and F02 (7 Series Sedan) produced from 3/2009 to 6/2012
F04 (Active Hybrid 7) produced from 4/2010 to 6/2012
F07 (Gran Turismo) produced from 9/2009 to 6/2012
F10 (5 Series Sedan) produced from 3/2010 to 7/2013
F12 (6 Series Convertible) produced from 3/2011 to 7/2012
F13 (6 Series Coupe) produced from 7/2011 to 7/2012
E70 (X5) produced from 3/2010 to 6/2013
E71 (X6) produced from 7/2008 to 6/2014
E72 (ActiveHybrid X6) produced from 9/2009 to 9/2011
I wonder if the X6M is effected by this "recall" / "customer care package", considering that the engine I have in my X6M is S63 not N63 as in 50i (non-M model)?
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      01-12-2015, 01:01 PM   #12
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My BMW rep. answered my question for me: "Your X6M is not applied to this recall." Apparently BMW uses higher quality parts, components and assembly techniques for their "///M" models vs the non-"///M" models.

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Great DIY. I'm away from home right now or I'd be doing this on my X5///M as well. Instead, its getting done on my dime at the dealership.

Glad the work isn't too bad for a weekend mechanic.
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My BMW rep. answered my question for me: "Your X6M is not applied to this recall." Apparently BMW uses higher quality parts, components and assembly techniques for their "///M" models vs the non-"///M" models.
This is wrong for the simple fact that a www.realoem.com search shows these pumps are used on multiple BMW engines. Countless engine parts are shared between the N63/S63 engine, so while we'd like to feel special, there aren't that many differences. The N63 Customer Care Package is finally trickling it's way down to other engines since these same parts are used, ie I just got my injectors replaced and was given a loaner vehicle just a few weeks ago. So far it's only been the injectors, so fingers crossed that the other N63 items will start getting covered on the S63 engines as well.

My buddy works at the dealership, so he did plenty of things for me since he already had my car apart...vacuum pump was leaking and replaced for around $240 including parts, I bought my own low pressure fuel sensor line off eBay for $50 (it's the bottom line where the sensor is different, it's shown as "superceded" when searching www.realoem.com, crankcase vent lines were replaced (also "superceded" by my parts 1, 2, and 3 we're already broken, I've still gotta replace three others) myself when I removed and gutted my cats, then AFAIK my MAF's are still OK but now I question them since they're part of the N63 recall.

Ironic thing is a month prior I was writing BMW NA about my leaking injectors and I was told basically to F off for and they knew nothing of any pending recall, then suddenly a thread was created here with a bulletin number and I was at the dealership shortly after. Screw you, BMW
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BTW Igor.. just saw this thread... there's a campaign to fix this? sorry
This is a 2-part campaign by BMW for cars with the N63 engine. It was announced on 12/29/2014 and called "N63 Customer Care Package", bulletin B001314. The highlights are:

- check the timing chain for stretch; replace if necessary
- check the following items and replace if necessary: fuel injectors, mass air flow sensors, crankcase vent lines, battery, engine vacuum pump, low pressure fuel sensor
- change the oil service interval to 12 months/10,000 miles

Even if your car is out of warranty (ie, 5 years old and has 200k miles), it is covered by this campaign and costs the owner nothing. The dealers are instructed to call all N63 owners in their area and schedule the cars to come in for this service, pending the dealership's availability. The dealership is instructed to provide a loaner car of equal or higher class to the customer (per N63 Customer Care Package Outbound Service Script document).

BMW is also offering extra incentives for owners affected by this campaign to trade in their N63 vehicle and purchase a new car (called the N63 Customer Loyalty Offer, details in a separate sales bulletin).

Also associated with this campaign is the "N63 Customer Appreciation Program". The dealerships are authorized to provide the customer with a gift of $50 value. This could be a gas card, gift bag containing BMW Lifestyle products, vehicle detailing,etc.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...80#post8818280
Alex, correct me if I am wrong, but BMW X6M E71 has S63, not N63 engine.
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Yes, the E7_ X_M is an S63, the second gen X_M's have the S63TU which are much closer the the F10 M5 powerplant than we are, hence why things like JB4 and BCM don't work on the E series vehicles, only the F series.
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Yes, the E7_ X_M is an S63, the second gen X_M's have the S63TU which are much closer the the F10 M5 powerplant than we are, hence why things like JB4 and BCM don't work on the E series vehicles, only the F series.
Spoke to my SA at Peter Pan BMW. Apparently only non-M X6's and X5's are covered under the recall. X5M's and X6M's are not covered. I was also confirmed one more time that replacement parts that are covered under this recall are different between M and non M models, or S63 and N63 engines.
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Spoke to my SA at Peter Pan BMW. Apparently only non-M X6's and X5's are covered under the recall. X5M's and X6M's are not covered. I was also confirmed one more time that replacement parts that are covered under this recall are different between M and non M models, or S63 and N63 engines.
Peter Pan is telling you fairy tales. They're not covered, just like the injectors weren't covered initially either. I can only hope BMW will finally admit that just about EVERY issue with the N63 is also an S63 problem. I beg to differ that they're different between non-M and M cars as they're in every engine from 2007 to current with the 4.4TT engine...there's been revisions, much like the injectors, but the same part nonetheless.

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/part...&q=11668605976
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Does this include X5M? Or just 50i's?

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Just 50i's. Confirmed with my local BMW dealership, ///M's are not included in this recall
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Where you guys finding the pumps for $200?

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What type of bolt is the lower one that connects the rear heat shields (9 & 10 in diagram) together? I'm trying to understand why I can't just remove the passenger rear heat shield alone to access the vacuum pump screws? That seems to be the only bolt preventing that.

I can get an array of extensions and universal joints up there, but being by myself couldn't get a good connection and wasn't certain I had the correct (torx?) bit.

http://bmwfans.info/parts-catalog/E7...r_heat_shield/

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Sorry to bring this thread back but does anyone have diy for n63 50i with pics? If its at the front of the engine i might give it a shot.
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