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Have a look at the Certificated Pre-Owned thing. It used to come with actual BMW factory backed warranty. But all of a sudden they removed it because according to them "consumers did not want it". Or maybe they just realised that here(AUS) people are not as litigation/class action happy as US and they won't have to deal with the blown engines/components that are out of the original 3yr factory warranty. For US guys, no we don't have 3rd party warranty here. All the 3rd party stuff is junk does not cover anything and the pay-outs are capped. eg. The most expensive/ best coverage warranty I was offered by BMW (at an official BMW dealer. Was a 3rd party, BMW does not have their own) on my CPO had capped the pay-out per claim at like $2k. For $$ reference, a set of front rotors in Aus is $1,800 |
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06-08-2023, 07:53 AM | #288 | |
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3 months...ouch! Silver lining is that you will drive out with at least something new, and BMW will have warranty both the parts and labour. Hopefully ends up being shorter than you think. Yes, definitely take photos. I would be surprised if BMW say what they think caused the failure (if it is not user error). |
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06-08-2023, 07:59 AM | #289 | |
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Guess I always thought that a $20K Kia is the knock-about car that you dump after a few years, while a $200K+ premium car you expect to last a little longer than a few years. |
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06-08-2023, 11:21 AM | #290 |
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In my experience it is quite the opposite. My buddy's work truck trim 2003 Ford Ranger refuses to die for any reason. His wife's 270k mile Toyota Avalon only went to the scrapyard due to rust. My old roommate's 2006 Scion tC burns oil, but won't die. My fiance's Jeep Renegade is hot garbage from a fit/finish/features/design perspective, but it's been rock solid reliable.. and that's just a Fiat in a fat suit.
Conversely, in 8 months of ownership my BMW already had a $4000 (covered by Carmax warranty) upper oil pan gasket fail in under 32k miles and I had an issue with leaking A/C refrigerant, which they fixed at the same time. I've found that having a competent third party service contract + dealer service is the best way to own one of these cars. I still get BMW OEM parts, I get brand new loaners like a '23 X5 M50i, and I deal with very little BS. I love my X5M, I really do. I've owned lots of cars, and far and away, it has been my absolute favorite. I love everything about it: the looks, the interior and exterior design, the performance. Unfortunately, it's still a $115,000 MSRP German vehicle and the day the extended service contract ends is the day it gets traded in on something else. I'll probably end up with a G95 at that point, but really, it'll all come down to what service plan I can get on it.
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09-13-2023, 08:08 AM | #292 | |
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Good read, took some time to read the whole thread but worth it, Sophisticated Redneck predicted the future |
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edycol I noticed you have now changed your mind on Castrol edge 0w -40 calling it an average product in a recent post of yours |
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09-20-2023, 09:46 AM | #297 | |
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When I handed them the TSB they looked up some vehicle history and told me that the recall had already been performed (some years prior) on one of the other injectors that had failed previously and as such the recall was "closed" What utter BS. I proceeded to call BMW NA and that whole process was a complete joke. Numerous left messages, non returned calls, then the "person that is dealing with your claim is on vacation" - the usual nonsense. Anyway, the bottom line....they refused to pay for it. They then quoted $3500 for six new index 12 injectors but graciously told me they would forgo the $150 diagnostic fee if I let them replace the injectors.... Wasn't that nice of them. I was able to buy a recognitioned injector on ebay for $100 and despite it not being the same index number as the others.....4 years later and no issues. BMW service, in my opinion, is almost non existent after the sale. Now I will read the rest of this horror story and whilst I do I really hope this ended well....that whole filter thing is a complete dodge of responsibility on their part but I am not surprised given my experience over a $600 (new) injector.... Edit, I now see that this ended well with a new engine...unless the next few pages detailed a further catastrophic as$hole stealership failure. All of this reminded me of Mazda. In 2004 my wife and I bought new Mazdas, hers was a CX7 and mine was a Mazdaspeed6. About 5 years in her engine failed, semi catastrophically. You could hear the timing chain slap lol. Around the same time my engine started using more oil than it should. Anyway, we towed her CX7 to the dealer and they diagnosed that there was oil starvation caused by the turbos burning oil in between oil changes....they knew, we didn't. Fast forward a few days and they quoted $11K to replace the engine with a used one. I was overseas at the time, working, but was able to get on a call with them at midnight my time (I was in HK) and essentially tell them that they were aware of turbo seal problems and that no bulletin was ever sent to owner so therefore they could go F themselves. There was a lot of back and forth but they ultimately agreed to do it for nothing. Moving on, my MS6 was now using a quart of oil every 200 miles but I was monitoring it almost daily. A rebuilt turbo from a forum such as this was $500 including core and the dealer wanted $4800 for a new one (K04). I again presented them with my case about the oil starvation and turbo seals and they replaced it for nothing, not without quite a lot of persuasion. I was able to lean on the fact that they had already replaced my wife's engine and that I could have just as easily driven my MS6 until the oil ran out (between changes) and blown my engine as well. They backed off and did it for nothing. Bottom line I guess is that all dealers have their shi#housery.
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09-20-2023, 10:26 AM | #298 |
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Rather than try to understand the ins and outs of oil viscosity etc, is there a TLDR for which oil my 2016 F85 with 63000 miles should have ?
I bought a 48K, 4 year extended warranty from the BMW dealer I bought the car from 4 months ago. Also, is there a website where I can find the exact recommended service list by miles etc so I can check that my warranty isn't worth dick if and when the engine fails ? Thanks
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i think bcs he tracks the car,he wants Porsche A40 approval for his bimmer.its not a bad oil still but not for his needs,if i guess right.
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Outside of warranty, any LL-01 oil is fine and I'd probably go 5W-40. Do you have the maintenance booklet that came in the owners manual folio? Most maintenance is based off CBS; I remember spark plugs are needed every 30K, but I cannot remember the other mileage based maintenance items.
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Finally got my car back after five months without spending a single $$ after spun rod bearings and damaged crankshaft. All internals were changed and in addition:
Now the painful run in has started. Went for a 400km run and the engine runs as new. For next 2k km cannot exceed 4k rpm which is fine.
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Your post has opened up the wounds of my painfully expensive experience, which I had buried deep inside never to be thought about again. I think I need therapy lol. Happy for you - enjoy! |
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I blew my e71 x6m up with 10w60 oil Hence the need for a donor motor and rebuild which I'm presently in the middle of. |
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I used 3/4 of quart of oil every 1K on the N63 with 45K miles and had multiple visits to the BMW dealership under warranty while the S63 with 65K miles used 1 quart of oil every 5K miles and never once did I experience the dreaded Drivetrain malfunction CEL. I have the same experience now with the F86.
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