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      03-23-2018, 02:41 PM   #1
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Best tuner for X6m?

Looking to see if anyone has either of the following tunes and if you would recommend either or.

JB Stage 1 +20-30rwhp
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The best tune is going to be a "tuner" who will work with you to reach your specific goals. Right now, that is only AA/Velos/etc. who do remote DME tunes via a K+DCAN cable. They are very expensive right now due to lack of competition and the ///M tax.

I would wait until probably this summer. MHD is "supposed" to be launching support for the S63, at which point tuning will be much easier and a boatload cheaper.
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Thanks for the fast reply. I never heard of MHD I assume they are reputable if your mentioning them. Can you elaborate what is going to make theirs so much more affordable?

I spoke with active autowerks they quoted me $1400 including tune and Simon cable to upload to ecu, does this sounds expensive? It seems fair for a gain of 86 hp, and that seems to be the strongest on the market, but doesn't mean it's the best which is why I'm here.

Is your X6m tuned by chance? And do you know anyone with a river autowerks?

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Hello,

I too would be interested in this for my 2014 X6M. I like the idea of a remote option as I am in the MidWest.
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      03-23-2018, 04:06 PM   #6
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Thanks for the fast reply. I never heard of MHD I assume they are reputable if your mentioning them. Can you elaborate what is going to make theirs so much more affordable?

I spoke with active autowerks they quoted me $1400 including tune and Simon cable to upload to ecu, does this sounds expensive? It seems fair for a gain of 86 hp, and that seems to be the strongest on the market, but doesn't mean it's the best which is why I'm here.

Is your X6m tuned by chance? And do you know anyone with a river autowerks?

Thank you
I have a Dinan stage 1 tune right now (came with the car), and it was around $1200 for the previous owner I think.

MHD is company/app that allows you to flash tunes to your car with a cheapo (<$100) cable that you attach to any android/iOS device. They are very big in various BMW communities. Started on the N54 I believe but that's grown a lot.

It's more affordable because the app is cheap, the cable is cheap, and then any good BMW tuner will be able to tune for the car without a specialty cable. I know Motiv will be jumping on that bandwagon, and their tunes are usually a few hundred dollars.

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I haven't seen anyone actually use those on an S63, so I don't know about their results. I will say though: it's a piggyback tuner, so it will not be able to do advanced DME features like delete cold start, remove the catless DP CEL, etc. I wouldn't go with it.
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I have a Dinan stage 1 tune right now (came with the car), and it was around $1200 for the previous owner I think.

MHD is company/app that allows you to flash tunes to your car with a cheapo (<$100) cable that you attach to any android/iOS device. They are very big in various BMW communities. Started on the N54 I believe but that's grown a lot.

It's more affordable because the app is cheap, the cable is cheap, and then any good BMW tuner will be able to tune for the car without a specialty cable. I know Motiv will be jumping on that bandwagon, and their tunes are usually a few hundred dollars.



I haven't seen anyone actually use those on an S63, so I don't know about their results. I will say though: it's a piggyback tuner, so it will not be able to do advanced DME features like delete cold start, remove the catless DP CEL, etc. I wouldn't go with it.
Agreed. Just seeing what's it's done on other applications is more than enough reason for me! I mean some seeing 0-60 reductions of .60+ of a sec is huge.

All depends how deep into the machine you wanna go!

+98hp is the claim on the s63, and so far other applications claims have stood up to as advertised.
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Can racechip be stacked on top of a Velos/AA tune?
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      03-23-2018, 08:34 PM   #9
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This one seems to produce good numbers. This comes with all files loaded and that's all that is needed? Say I were to get downpipes later on, would it need to be retuned or can it clear the CEL and adjust the tune itself?
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Can racechip be stacked on top of a Velos/AA tune?
It's just a piggyback and has 7 settings.

You likely can stack, but verify with your tuner of course.


https://www.racechip.us/shop/bmw/x6-m-e71-72-2009-to-2014/x6-m-4-4-4395ccm-550hp-408kw-369lb-ft.html
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This one seems to produce good numbers. This comes with all files loaded and that's all that is needed? Say I were to get downpipes later on, would it need to be retuned or can it clear the CEL and adjust the tune itself?
It's a fooler box, and this safely modifies the signals being sent to computer.

More fuel, more air, more power.

Some guys say you can run O2 foolers to prevent cel, but no it doesn't tune it out.
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      03-24-2018, 08:14 AM   #12
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Go with what works.
None of the fastest cars use any of these.
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Racechip says a huge increase, but in fact will get 30-40 hp maximum. It can not be compared with real ECU tune.

Now i have BR Perfomance stage2 tuned for 93 fuel.
0-60 3.9sec
60-160 10.2sec

Somebody measured Velos stage2?
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If you can get to Calgary, call up Ecuprogram.
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I would wait until probably this summer. MHD is "supposed" to be launching support for the S63, at which point tuning will be much easier and a boatload cheaper.
I was just talking with MHD a few days ago about the flash tune I'm running on the GF's 535xiT and I brought up S63 tuning again...they still have no plans of touching our platform
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I'm running an HCPerformance tune from Halim, but he's hard to reach since he's buried in the M5/M6 and M2/M3/M4 market which is much hotter than our forgotten about platform that only ran for 3yrs before being upgraded to S63TU in the newer platforms.
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      03-30-2018, 07:26 PM   #17
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If you can get to Calgary, call up Ecuprogram.
Their tunes seems very powerful and local I just mailed them inquiring. Have you had any experience with them? And do you know anyone in Edmonton by chance?
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Their tunes seems very powerful and local I just mailed them inquiring. Have you had any experience with them? And do you know anyone in Edmonton by chance?
My buddy had both his ML63 and M3 tuned there, and very happy both times. There is also Tunerworks, but I don't know how much actual tuning they do aside from Cobb stuff. Might also see if Vex Performance has ever tuned one, as Sunny and Jimmy are both very competent tuners, Sunny tuned my Subaru for different upgrades more than once while I lived there.

Don't know of any good tuners up in Edmonton unfortunately.

That said, I have the Velos tune on my X5 and am very happy with it.
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im wondering about Racechip.. anyone tried?
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It's hard to say who's best because who out there has run more than one tune? I may think mine is the best, someone else may think theirs is the best. Heck, even two cars can run two different tunes and one might be faster than the other, but that doesn't necessarily mean ones better than the other because of variables like AF ratios, curb weight, etc etc.
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Anyone try bootmod3 or esstuning?
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Bootmod3 isn't for E series vehicles and I'm sure there's people running ESS tunes. I just wish this platform had gotten enough love to do back to back tune comparisons before it was basically forgotten about.
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