kw vs h&r

[fatmatt0116]

why spend the extra 2k for kw to lower the car? does it improve the ride that much?

when I lower the car will it increase tire wear even if I fix the camber?

[larryv]

I just lowered the X5 Sport on H&R springs and the ride is a lot better than i thought it would be. I went with the 1.2 kit and wish the front and rear would be a a bit lower. If i had the KW's i could just adj them and be done with it. My M3 has KW's and it is lowered about 2 inches and it rides very nice. Rebound and compression setting are a plus but it will cost you. I hope the H&R springs settle a lot more or i will have to do something else.

[JVX6M]

Originally Posted by larryv

I just lowered the X5 Sport on H&R springs and the ride is a lot better than i thought it would be. I went with the 1.2 kit and wish the front and rear would be a a bit lower. If i had the KW's i could just adj them and be done with it. My M3 has KW's and it is lowered about 2 inches and it rides very nice. Rebound and compression setting are a plus but it will cost you. I hope the H&R springs settle a lot more or i will have to do something else.

I also agree with larryv, although I only did the 1.2" drop the slight change in ride quality doesn't bother me one bit! I do have to say depending on whether you have the rear air suspension or not if you lower the back too much with the lowering links provided by H&R and I mean the difference of if I had to guess a half inch or less it can certainly make a huge difference when the rear tires go over any bumps. When I had mine installed I had to go back to the shop bc of some noises from the front springs and I had them raise the back a small amount while I was there and it was a completely different and better quality ride and still looks great! It honestly depends on how dropped you want the vehicle. I would love to drive my X5M slammed on KW's but for the $$$ amount difference + I don't think my ride quality is bad at all and still think it looks sick with my 22's I'm good with H&R. Others feel the exact opposite and these springs get a pretty bogus wrap IMO.

[northern2020]

Originally Posted by fatmatt0116

why spend the extra 2k for kw to lower the car? does it improve the ride that much?

when I lower the car will it increase tire wear even if I fix the camber?

Because the 1.0/1.2 " drop is not enough of a drop, and the 1.0/1.8" is a great drop it is incredibly unsafe and uncomfortable -

your truck will bounce around like a jack rabbit especially at higher speeds and is incredibly stiff. You'll also blow your shocks quicker because the spring rate is not matched to the shock.

The KW's are worth every penny

[fatmatt0116]

does it matter what kind of factory suspension is presently on the car or is there just one kind of kwv3 to buy?

how difficult is it to adjust the kws once they are on the car?

can anyone provide any commentary on how kws affect tire wear.?

[vinster88]

I installed H&R within the last 48 hours. The ride would suck in the back seats. I would think Unbearable. as long as your in the front or don't cart passengers that bitch a bunch. Then fine enough. I did a diy install. Nah pay the money. I got skills and a massive set o tools. Pain is putting it lightly. In the end you better really want the look. mine looks sick. I can live with it. but I ain't gonna be anything but the driver.

[fatmatt0116]

how is the ride with the KW? Still nice and comfy? Good enough for a 4 month old?

[northern2020]

Originally Posted by fatmatt0116

does it matter what kind of factory suspension is presently on the car or is there just one kind of kwv3 to buy?

how difficult is it to adjust the kws once they are on the car?

can anyone provide any commentary on how kws affect tire wear.?

2 kinds of KW v3 - with EDC delete module and without.

Get the one with EDC delete - its useless once you have the v3 because you can dial in your own settings.

My children could adjust the ride height and dampening / rebound settings - it's that easy.

I have mine set at factory KW settings (at 50% dampening / rebound) and I find it too cushy - is better than stock but has quite a bit of oversteer.

I plan on stiffening up the Damp/Rebound by 20% to see how it feels.

On a truck this much you pay either $250 on a HR spring or around $2700 on KW's.

You can have my HR's collecting dust in my garage for $100 if you live locally (Alberta) - I took the off after 40 miles of driving.

KW = spouse and child friendly

[fatmatt0116]

KW it is. Does lowering the car make it more difficult to steer?

[JVX6M]

Originally Posted by fatmatt0116

KW it is. Does lowering the car make it more difficult to steer?

Uh NO!

[northern2020]

Originally Posted by fatmatt0116

KW it is. Does lowering the car make it more difficult to steer?

No offense - but I can't believe you asked that Q...

[JVX6M]

Originally Posted by northern2020

No offense - but I can't believe you asked that Q...

Me also, it did however make me laugh while at work which is always a good thing!

[Chio]

:character 0229:

OH BOY

Originally Posted by JX5M

Me also, it did however make me laugh while at work which is always a good thing!

[turbologist]

We need some pics in this thread.

[fatmatt0116]

lol. just wanted to check as I've had to listen to the wife complain that it's more work to turn the wheel since I put the 21s on. Lowering the car also increases tire wear, no?

[northern2020]

Originally Posted by fatmatt0116

lol. just wanted to check as I've had to listen to the wife complain that it's more work to turn the wheel since I put the 21s on. Lowering the car also increases tire wear, no?

Fortunately there will be some tire wear on the inside because there is no adjustable camber kit yet for this suspension.

Just get it aligned as to factory specs after...

It's no issue driving with it lowered - your wife may even say its easier to hop in the front seat because of the drop.

She would for sure complain with HR's...when mine were on she asked me why my "truck was broke"

[JVX6M]

Doesn't matter there's tire wear on stock 20" and stock suspension too. When I bought my 2012 the inside of my x5m oem bridgestone's were super thin before installing H&R and my ADV 22's.