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[Car-Addicted]

China Discovers World's Largest Oil Deposit
Mar.02 - 2024
A crucial discovery for China, aiming to reduce its energy dependence, has come to light with the Chinese oil company China National Offshore Oil Corporation, better known as CNOOC, reportedly uncovering the world's largest oil deposit in the Bohai Sea. This is reported by Naftemporiki.
The Bozhong 26-6 oil field, discovered in 2022, has now confirmed record levels of hydrocarbon reserves following a series of drilling operations, potentially exceeding 1.3 billion barrels (over 200 million cubic meters).
The gigantic deposit was found in metamorphic rocks in the Bohai Sea, a small inland sea located at the northern tip of the East China Sea and northwest of the Yellow Sea, on the northeastern coast of China.
https://www.dagens.com/news/china-di...st-oil-deposit

What caught my eye was
2.5 Petroleum Occurrence
Petroleum reservoirs are normally found in sedimentary rocks. Rarely, petroleum is found in fractured igneous or metamorphic rocks. Igneous and metamorphic rocks originate in high pressure and temperature conditions that do not favor the formation of petroleum reservoirs.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics...leum-reservoir

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by freakystyly

Just arguing this post for the sake of arguing, I don't really care. But, the world will be fine... it was never about the world. It's about trying to preserve the status quo while riding a roller coaster.

Certain species of life will either migrate or die off and people don't like that idea.

Or adapt. That pesky thing Dawin defined... evolution.

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

It will be interesting to see if access to Tesla's charging network, which went live yesterday, will help boost sales of the Mach E.

And it starts already.
Tesla: It's Okay to Double-Park At Supercharger Stalls In A Non-Tesla
However, there's something funky going on that we've known about since Tesla started installing its Magic Dock connectors: its Supercharger cables are just too short. Now, non-Tesla vehicles might have to double-park charging stalls, and Tesla's app seems just fine with that.
That's now a problem for non-Tesla owners. For example, Ford's F-150 Lightning and Mustang Mach-E have the charger inlet positioned near the front wheel of the driver's door. The Supercharger cable is too short to reach the front of the vehicle when it's backed in, and when the car pulls in, the charge port is then located on the opposite side of the vehicle. This means that the only way for the vehicle to charge is to double-park and block another charging stall.



https://insideevs.com/news/710789/te...harger-stalls/

Don't bogart that Charger

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

And it starts already.
Tesla: It's Okay to Double-Park At Supercharger Stalls In A Non-Tesla
However, there's something funky going on that we've known about since Tesla started installing its Magic Dock connectors: its Supercharger cables are just too short. Now, non-Tesla vehicles might have to double-park charging stalls, and Tesla's app seems just fine with that.
That's now a problem for non-Tesla owners. For example, Ford's F-150 Lightning and Mustang Mach-E have the charger inlet positioned near the front wheel of the driver's door. The Supercharger cable is too short to reach the front of the vehicle when it's backed in, and when the car pulls in, the charge port is then located on the opposite side of the vehicle. This means that the only way for the vehicle to charge is to double-park and block another charging stall.



https://insideevs.com/news/710789/te...harger-stalls/

Don't bogart that Charger

Non issue, everyone charges at home anyway. Right?

[Car-Addicted]

Tesla Could Make $10 Billion On Charging Stations
March 1, 2024
Several car companies acknowledged that they could not create EV charging infrastructures. In a form of surrender, they agreed to use the one Tesla had built. Tesla will get a windfall of revenue because of these decisions. One expert organization says the figure could be $10 billion a year. Tesla had a total revenue of about $25 billion in the fourth quarter of 2023 and warned its business would slow this year as EV adoption growth rates tail off.
In the final quarter of 2023, Tesla had revenue of $25.2 billion and Adjusted EBITDA of $4 billion, a drop of 27% from the same quarter the year before. An additional $10 billion in revenue per year, most of which goes to the bottom line, would substantially change Telsa’s EPS figures. That is a big deal for a company with its shares down 18% this year.
https://climatecrisis247.com/ev/tesl...ging-stations/

[Weather Man]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

And it starts already.
Tesla: It's Okay to Double-Park At Supercharger Stalls In A Non-Tesla
However, there's something funky going on that we've known about since Tesla started installing its Magic Dock connectors: its Supercharger cables are just too short. Now, non-Tesla vehicles might have to double-park charging stalls, and Tesla's app seems just fine with that.
That's now a problem for non-Tesla owners. For example, Ford's F-150 Lightning and Mustang Mach-E have the charger inlet positioned near the front wheel of the driver's door. The Supercharger cable is too short to reach the front of the vehicle when it's backed in, and when the car pulls in, the charge port is then located on the opposite side of the vehicle. This means that the only way for the vehicle to charge is to double-park and block another charging stall.



https://insideevs.com/news/710789/te...harger-stalls/

Don't bogart that Charger

Copper theft = shorter cords.

[Weather Man]

Tesla allegedly mishandled hazardous waste for years throughout the state of California according to a lawsuit filed by district attorneys in 25 counties there.

While Tesla has a mission to “accelerate the world’s transition to sustainable energy,” it has been repeatedly called out for lax environmental practices.

Elon Musk’s automaker is listed 89th among the Toxic 100 air polluters as ranked by the Political Economy Research Institute, based on the most recent available data.

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by Weather Man

Copper theft = shorter cords.

No cord

[Weather Man]

Fire fighters responded 8 times summer of 2023 to fight EV battery fires at Detroit GM assembly plant. City and fire department demand better separation of batteries to stop large fires.

In other news, the Federal government insists EV's are perfectly fine to park in your garage with no safety concerns.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by eugenebmw

No cord

Just what a harassed mum from the kids sitting in the back doesn't want to see with 1% charge left on her EV,, Ough..

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Weather Man

Tesla allegedly mishandled hazardous waste for years throughout the state of California according to a lawsuit filed by district attorneys in 25 counties there.

While Tesla has a mission to “accelerate the world’s transition to sustainable energy,” it has been repeatedly called out for lax environmental practices.

Elon Musk’s automaker is listed 89th among the Toxic 100 air polluters as ranked by the Political Economy Research Institute, based on the most recent available data.

Hazardous waste spewing by the minute from the 'clean energy' drive: gubment have eyes wide shut of course.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

China Discovers World's Largest Oil Deposit
Mar.02 - 2024
A crucial discovery for China, aiming to reduce its energy dependence, has come to light with the Chinese oil company China National Offshore Oil Corporation, better known as CNOOC, reportedly uncovering the world's largest oil deposit in the Bohai Sea. This is reported by Naftemporiki.
The Bozhong 26-6 oil field, discovered in 2022, has now confirmed record levels of hydrocarbon reserves following a series of drilling operations, potentially exceeding 1.3 billion barrels (over 200 million cubic meters).
The gigantic deposit was found in metamorphic rocks in the Bohai Sea, a small inland sea located at the northern tip of the East China Sea and northwest of the Yellow Sea, on the northeastern coast of China.
https://www.dagens.com/news/china-di...st-oil-deposit

What caught my eye was
2.5 Petroleum Occurrence
Petroleum reservoirs are normally found in sedimentary rocks. Rarely, petroleum is found in fractured igneous or metamorphic rocks. Igneous and metamorphic rocks originate in high pressure and temperature conditions that do not favor the formation of petroleum reservoirs.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics...leum-reservoir

We have to save the planet my friend . As you can see ! => https://www.facebook.com/reel/7064459763651905

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

We have to save the planet my friend . As you can see ! => https://www.facebook.com/reel/7064459763651905

So that's what they mean by 'retread' recycled tires

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Weather Man

Fire fighters responded 8 times summer of 2023 to fight EV battery fires at Detroit GM assembly plant. City and fire department demand better separation of batteries to stop large fires.

In other news, the Federal government insists EV's are perfectly fine to park in your garage with no safety concerns.

Sounds like the sky is falling.

[Murf the Surf]

Originally Posted by gblansten

Sounds like the sky is falling.

I wonder how many fire fighters as a percentage have bought EV's?

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Murf the Surf

I wonder how many fire fighters as a percentage have bought EV's?

Probably not a lot given their incomes and the higher costs up front on EVs. Since ICE cars are 10-20 times more likely to catch fire than pure EVs then they would probably like EVs more on that metric.

But we must believe the sky is falling and that EVs will burn everything down. This is similar but a flip side to the Green left that says the world is ending. It’s just mindless outrage porn for the uneducated.

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by gblansten

Probably not a lot given their incomes and the higher costs up front on EVs. Since ICE cars are 10-20 times more likely to catch fire than pure EVs then they would probably like EVs more on that metric.

But we must believe the sky is falling and that EVs will burn everything down. This is similar but a flip side to the Green left that says the world is ending. It’s just mindless outrage porn for the uneducated.

But it’s not. The issues with EV, is they don’t solve any problem and create worse ones. And then we have a bunch of people pretending that there are no issues with EV, and they are doing their part by being able to afford the latest fad.

EVs are dumb. Full stop. It should be a choice if you want to buy one - but the governments of the world are trying to force it on the populace.

[Murf the Surf]

Toyota would rather buy credits than waste money on EV's.
https://electrek.co/2024/03/01/toyot...YL2o4bdgR8PfWA

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

But it’s not. The issues with EV, is they don’t solve any problem and create worse ones. And then we have a bunch of people pretending that there are no issues with EV, and they are doing their part by being able to afford the latest fad.

EVs are dumb. Full stop. It should be a choice if you want to buy one - but the governments of the world are trying to force it on the populace.

But they aren’t going to burn everything down compared to ICE vehicles. That is sky is falling BS.

[Weather Man]

Originally Posted by gblansten

Probably not a lot given their incomes and the higher costs up front on EVs. Since ICE cars are 10-20 times more likely to catch fire than pure EVs then they would probably like EVs more on that metric.

The fire number has been debunked. When you correct for age, use and hobbies, the numbers are parity. The big difference is the catastrophic nature of EV fires compared to ICE fires. ICE cars also don't generate fuel vapor bomb clouds that fill a garage before detonation.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Weather Man

The fire number has been debunked. When you correct for age, use and hobbies, the numbers are parity. The big difference is the catastrophic nature of EV fires compared to ICE fires. ICE cars also don't generate fuel vapor bomb clouds that fill a garage before detonation.

So, now, instead of EVs burning everything down they are only as bad as ICE cars.

I love the sky is falling fuel vapor bomb clouds. This ranks right up there with the Nazi Zyklon B guy.

You are welcome to post data showing fire parity. I have no problem correcting my views over facts. All of the reports I see show ICE as significantly more likely to catch fire.

https://www.autoweek.com/news/a44938...cle-car-fires/

https://www.driving.co.uk/car-clinic...d-diesel-cars/

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by gblansten

So, now, instead of EVs burning everything down they are only as bad as ICE cars.

I love the sky is falling fuel vapor bomb clouds. This ranks right up there with the Nazi Zyklon B guy.

You are welcome to post data showing fire parity. I have no problem correcting my views over facts. All of the reports I see show ICE as significantly more likely to catch fire.

https://www.autoweek.com/news/a44938...cle-car-fires/

https://www.driving.co.uk/car-clinic...d-diesel-cars/

To be fair - there were fires at factories, which is concerning. That and the fact that EVs batteries do let off a LOT of nasty vapors when burned. It’s not one or the other - it’s true, and it’s a problem. Do ice cars have issues, sure but this is about EVs.