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      12-02-2013, 01:20 PM   #45
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Here is another, I was pretty iffy even going on the lake. But after I had no issues I had a little fun and ripped it up pretty good!!
I am sorry but thrashing around by yourself on a frozen lake covered with snow is not the same as driving on roads in the same conditions with other cars around you. Winter tires are not just about going, they are about evasive maneuvers and stopping.

I am running OEM 211' s (255/19') w/ Pirelli Scorpion Ice & Snow RFT's as my winter set since my 2007 and I would not go any other way. I had 18's at first but they were just too soft coming from 20" summers. Granted 211's won't fit the X5M but the 19" combo works well.
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anyone try the pirelli ice and snow studded tires on stock rims? Considering going that route next year, as I hate, hate, hate the look of square 255-50-19's on the M. Just wrong.
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anyone try the pirelli ice and snow studded tires on stock rims? Considering going that route next year, as I hate, hate, hate the look of square 255-50-19's on the M. Just wrong.
My tuner had 275/40 Pirelli all around but I dont think they were studded, he was happy with them but the rear tires had the stretched look I attached a pic of 275/40 on a 10.5" wheel to give an idea. I agree about the 19" looks I have winters on for 1/2 the year I don't want it to look lame 1/2 the time.

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I am sorry but thrashing around by yourself on a frozen lake covered with snow is not the same as driving on roads in the same conditions with other cars around you. Winter tires are not just about going, they are about evasive maneuvers and stopping.

I am running OEM 211' s (255/19') w/ Pirelli Scorpion Ice & Snow RFT's as my winter set since my 2007 and I would not go any other way. I had 18's at first but they were just too soft coming from 20" summers. Granted 211's won't fit the X5M but the 19" combo works well.
Thanks for the input my wife drove an entire winter on that set up with no issues. I was very impressed with the DWS like I said I planned to buy dedicated winter tires but the DWS were that good I stuck with them. The fact it can drive on ice and in deep snow says a lot no its not like driving on an icey road but it still involves traction, i see 4x4 trucks stuck on the lake every day but we had no issues getting around and even had some fun "thrashing about". I now have the DWS on my ///M for winter and since i need a set of tires for one of us and we already have summer wheels/tires I put my wife on 20" Nokian happilatta studded tires...and those are unreal they are easily the best winter tires money can buy. We have already had over 12" of snow this winter and are getting another 1" today so we are in extreme winter where I live and the DWS are up to the task, when they wear out I will get 20" winter tires because I have 22" summer wheels/tires but for people that have mild winters and want to run them all year the DWS are a great tire our winters are long and brutal and the perfomermed excellent with good ice traction and great deep snow traction which surprised me due to the lugs not being very deep.

And because I like pictures here is a picture from last winter with the DWS.



Here are the nokians 275/40 20 square on replica 9.5/10.5" wheels

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I hate, hate, hate the look of square 255-50-19's on the M. Just wrong.
haha, while i admit they don't look great on the M, but i did it. It's more for function over looks. I would take the traction benefit of a square 255 set with good winters over looks anyday so there won't be regrets when the car is sliding towards a barrier on ice
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anyone try the pirelli ice and snow studded tires on stock rims? Considering going that route next year, as I hate, hate, hate the look of square 255-50-19's on the M. Just wrong.
not studded, but pirelli winter carving edge, nice. +1 on the look of the square, been told few make staggered winters for x5M
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      12-02-2013, 11:19 PM   #50
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I am using the Pirelli Winter Carving Run Flat Snow in a squared 275/40/20 configuration. Some of the best snow tires I've ever owned and great ride too. Here is a link to my post from last year.
http://www.xbimmers.com/forums/showt...1#post15064130
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Here is another, I was pretty iffy even going on the lake. But after I had no issues I had a little fun and ripped it up pretty good!!

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      12-03-2013, 01:06 PM   #52
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My tuner had 275/40 Pirelli all around but I dont think they were studded, he was happy with them but the rear tires had the stretched look I attached a pic of 275/40 on a 10.5" wheel to give an idea. I agree about the 19" looks I have winters on for 1/2 the year I don't want it to look lame 1/2 the time.



Thanks for the input my wife drove an entire winter on that set up with no issues. I was very impressed with the DWS like I said I planned to buy dedicated winter tires but the DWS were that good I stuck with them. The fact it can drive on ice and in deep snow says a lot no its not like driving on an icey road but it still involves traction, i see 4x4 trucks stuck on the lake every day but we had no issues getting around and even had some fun "thrashing about". I now have the DWS on my ///M for winter and since i need a set of tires for one of us and we already have summer wheels/tires I put my wife on 20" Nokian happilatta studded tires...and those are unreal they are easily the best winter tires money can buy. We have already had over 12" of snow this winter and are getting another 1" today so we are in extreme winter where I live and the DWS are up to the task, when they wear out I will get 20" winter tires because I have 22" summer wheels/tires but for people that have mild winters and want to run them all year the DWS are a great tire our winters are long and brutal and the perfomermed excellent with good ice traction and great deep snow traction which surprised me due to the lugs not being very deep.

And because I like pictures here is a picture from last winter with the DWS.



Here are the nokians 275/40 20 square on replica 9.5/10.5" wheels

Which Nokian's are those? Do you have any pics of it dead on from the rear? From that picture it doesn't look too stretched - does it look better than the pirelli's? I love Nokians, but they don't make a 315 tire. I mentioned the Pirelli ice and snow studded because they do make a 315 for the x5M. How do you like the studs? Are they noisy/destructive?
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      12-03-2013, 03:21 PM   #53
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Which Nokian's are those? Do you have any pics of it dead on from the rear? From that picture it doesn't look too stretched - does it look better than the pirelli's? I love Nokians, but they don't make a 315 tire. I mentioned the Pirelli ice and snow studded because they do make a 315 for the x5M. How do you like the studs? Are they noisy/destructive?
I don't have a pic straight on from the rear, those are on a 10.5" wheel not the standard OEM 11" so it will be a little more stretched on OEMs. I don't have these on my M because they don't come in the 315mm. I would likely follow your lead with the studded Pirelli due the 315mm. I do really like the studs a few weeks ago our hiways all closed do to freezing rain and snow, vehicles were in the ditch everywhere and I had great control with the studded tires. I do notice they are slightly noisy, but the wife gave them the nod of approval she said she dosent notice the noise. They are not destructive at all, I am not sure what you mean by that? To the roads? On my drive way and garage you would never know I ran studded tires and my garage has vinyl flooring and you can't tell.

Here is a picture of today's roads..my DWS did fine on these. But the Nokians are no doubt better.

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Driveway and garage floor was exactly what I was referring to - My thought was that the studs might compensate for extra width of the 315's
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Driveway and garage floor was exactly what I was referring to - My thought was that the studs might compensate for extra width of the 315's
I have ran studs on multiple vehicles over the years they do make a huge diffrence for sure, I highly recommend them on dedicated winter tires.
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      12-06-2013, 11:23 PM   #56
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winter tires

I have an X5 5.0 with 19 inch wheels 285/45/19 back and 255/50/19 front
I have summer sport tires and could hardly move in 1/2 inch of snow

I was wondering what would be an ideal tire for the winter
i need performance as well as some traction
should i go with snow tires or all season? What are pros and cons of each

can you recommend a brand and size

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      12-07-2013, 12:04 AM   #57
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to keep it short and simple, if you want all out winter capability, go for a winter tire, Nokians are amazing for that.
if you don't see a lot of snow and ice, a good allrounder is the conti DWS
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The DWS are a great in the snow for an all season but like Sonny said above you can't beat all out winter tires for snow and ice but if you don't get a to. Of snow where you live I would try the continental DWS of an all season tire.
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How many miles can I get out of DSW before they're useless in snow?
I live in upstate NY, get quite a lot of snow. Whats the best size for 19in wheels? Should I keep them staggered like OEM? What size is better for snow 255 or 275? Is there much difference?
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I've narrowed down to 3 choices

1. Conti DSW
2. Pirelli snow and ice
3. Bridgestone Blizzak

how do these compare?
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If you are planning on fitting them on your current rim, go for the OEM tire size.

as for how long conti lasts, it completely depends on the mileage you do yearly. But there is the DWS logo on the tire tread, when the S is warn out, they will not do well in snow any longer. My guess is around 2-3 yrs of driving, depending on mileage.

As for the 3, it's really not fair to compare all season to winters, it's your personal call if you want a set of dedicated tires for winter and another set for summer season, or just a set for all season.

I have had DMV1, they are good in snow, but not great when dry and warm (above freezing) the tires are very soft and does not corner well. No personal experience with Pirelli, so can't comment
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DWS and Pirelli don't come in OEM sizes 285/45/19 back and 255/50/19 front

Im thinking 275/45/19 DWS all around. Will this work? Or should I get 255/50 all around? Will getting 275 over 255 make a significant difference for winter driving?
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The rule of thumb is narrow tires work better on snow and ice. The 275's may not be as good in theory but I am not sure it would be noticeable. Having winter rubber will be the most important factor. With square setup, you can rotate the tires. On the x5, I still find my backs wear more than the fronts so u can rotate them for a more even wear. I simply tract the tread depth and rotate them appropriately.
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I have the blizzak 275/40 R20 front and rear.The rear are stretched on the 315/35 R20 and im not keen on the look but they are great in the deep snow and ice. Can't wait to put the summers back on.
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Diesel: What is your OEM exact size setup? Is it staggered? Does this mess with your traction control etc? do you get warning lights, error messages? did you consult anyone before doing this?
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My front is 255/50/19. Can i put 275/50 on it?
My rear is 285/45/19. Can I put 275/50 on it?
Has anyone experimented with this?
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