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      02-23-2016, 12:09 PM   #1
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our trucks are currently unable to be retailed by bmw dealers

Was speaking to a friend of mine at a local BMW dealer and every e70 x5 model, e71 x6 model and e90, e92, e93 3 series models are not allowed to be retailed currently by BMW dealer as of 2/19/2016. the reason is for the airbag recall and the fact that there is no solution to it yet. he also said if you were to trade in one of these models you'd take like a $5000 deduction currently because they can't resell them. Leases are unable to be bought out or extended on these models as well. He said it could be a few months and you will see all these models fall off the websites for sale and there wont be any around for sale by BMW dealers until resolved.


edit: so i just spoke to him again and these cars can't be auctioned or retailed for sale any where currently. used car dealers and off brand dealers can't even sell them.
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should start a lawsuit for diminished values. even after the recall, there will be a large surplus of x5's which will drop prices, then prices wont' go back up.
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Orrrr... Sell it private party right now while nobody else can... Charge a premium for an otherwise unattainable vehicle...

Hmmm, I should do this...
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Just checked the recall site and realized my car is also affected... Please Keep us updated if anything is going on in regards to lawsuit..might join in.
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      02-23-2016, 04:51 PM   #5
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Orrrr... Sell it private party right now while nobody else can... Charge a premium for an otherwise unattainable vehicle...

Hmmm, I should do this...
ha, your m3 and x5m are both on the list.
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      02-23-2016, 05:49 PM   #6
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That can't be good for us, not that I'm planning to sale mine any time soon.
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Orrrr... Sell it private party right now while nobody else can... Charge a premium for an otherwise unattainable vehicle...

Hmmm, I should do this...
Let me try ...

My 2012 X5 50i with 28K mi may be the only one around that had the complete airbag module replaced just in the last year ... It was replaced under warranty because I found a defect in the BMW roundel emblem in the center of the pad.

Anybody interested in buying the car?
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More great news. Jesus H.
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Orrrr... Sell it private party right now while nobody else can... Charge a premium for an otherwise unattainable vehicle...
Hmmm, I should do this...
^What my immediate thought was.


Where can I find the recall list of effected VINs?
I am not getting ANY notices from BMW... not even the most recent Fuel Injector recall. When I take my vehicle(s) in, nothing shows up on any recall list.

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      02-23-2016, 09:53 PM   #10
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My 2 trucks are affected too
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My E70 is on the list, but not my E90...not that I was planning on dumping either of them.
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      02-24-2016, 02:21 AM   #12
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They are still selling them at autotrader.com
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      02-24-2016, 06:51 AM   #13
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They are still selling them at autotrader.com
They are still on autotrader because there's thousands to remove from autotrader


supposedly 840,000 vehicles are involved.
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      02-24-2016, 06:54 AM   #14
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^What my immediate thought was.


Where can I find the recall list of effected VINs?
I am not getting ANY notices from BMW... not even the most recent Fuel Injector recall. When I take my vehicle(s) in, nothing shows up on any recall list.


I didn't get the injector notice either but had mine done. supposedly the letters on the airbags aren't going out until march and the oldest models are being notified first. The letters are going out to notify you of the recall, then when they have the remedy you will be notified again. u can check your car here:

http://www.bmwusa.com/standard/conte...eoverride=true

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They have them listed on BMW certified preowned site also.
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      02-24-2016, 06:56 AM   #16
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They have them listed on BMW certified preowned site also.
same thing, they were unable to sell as of 2/19/2016, so they haven't removed them. the dealer the guy told me this from still has them listed but they cant sell them.
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      02-24-2016, 09:18 AM   #17
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IMO, unless there is an order from the government then BMW NA will not be able to stop any non-BMW used car dealership to sell them
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you are right and this is kinda like the vw dieselgate thing where vw dealers can't sell but other dealers can, however it dropped the value of those, so will it to ours. i think they (vw guys) are getting some kind of compensation for diminished value.
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      02-24-2016, 10:26 AM   #19
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people can't sell them at dealers and will be offered a $5k lower trade-in. So, they'll list them on autotrader and the like for similar prices to what the low trade in is so they can get their new vehicles. Looks like the prices could drop temporarily if you know what to look for.
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people can't sell them at dealers and will be offered a $5k lower trade-in. So, they'll list them on autotrader and the like for similar prices to what the low trade in is so they can get their new vehicles. Looks like the prices could drop temporarily if you know what to look for.
I see it the opposite way:

Franchised BMW dealers can't sell at the auctions or at the retail level. BMWFS can't sell their lease returns ...

Result: availability is constraint for the time being.

Private sellers should be able to take advantage of this, because limited supply should keep the prices steady, or even increase.

I ran a Manheim check today: out of the 193 e70 LCI X5 (2011 - 2013: 35i, 35d and 50i) listings, three were BMW dealer listings and one was listed by BMWFS Canada. Very unusual.

Yet, the BMW USA CPO website shows over 190 e70 X5's for sale throughout the country in their dealer network.

Could be that the system hasn't been purged yet ...
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      02-26-2016, 05:09 PM   #21
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Dammit, both my cars are affected and I was just deciding which one to let go!
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      02-26-2016, 09:03 PM   #22
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Just checked on BrianJesselBMW Pre-Owned and they seem to still have E70s from 2008 all the way up to 2013 for sale.
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