Avinusa Upgrade Screen (Feedback/Questions)

[E70'11]

Originally Posted by gsnake

I agree with you although messing up with the device could be challenging. A friend of mine had issues when he rooted his NAV unit. Yes, it is android and hopefully when the new hardware version comes out they would not stop making updates to the current unit. The worst case we can always upgrade again
Hey, maybe this would now be 12" screen

10.25" does it just fine in the E70s lol too big of a screen can look stupid IMO

[boneca]

Originally Posted by E70'11

10.25" does it just fine in the E70s lol too big of a screen can look stupid IMO

I agree, recently drove G30 5 series with new screen, too big IMHO

[E70'11]

Okay so I used the navigation app through the head unit to see if it'll play sounds but from what I was told Sygic only plays sound if you buy the premium. That accurate? How else can I tell if swapping the opitcal cable is the proven way to play sounds out of this unit?

[boneca]

Originally Posted by E70'11

Okay so I used the navigation app through the head unit to see if it'll play sounds but from what I was told Sygic only plays sound if you buy the premium. That accurate? How else can I tell if swapping the opitcal cable is the proven way to play sounds out of this unit?

what sounds u referring to? sounds from the unit has nothing to do with "sounds" voice from navigation app! optical cable also has nothing to do with it! I don't use Sygic but in Waze if u connected center speakers wires u will get navigation voices coming from center speaker!

hope this helps!

[gsnake]

Originally Posted by E70'11

10.25" does it just fine in the E70s lol too big of a screen can look stupid IMO

of course - I was joking

[m5james]

Originally Posted by gsnake

I agree with you although messing up with the device could be challenging. A friend of mine had issues when he rooted his NAV unit. Yes, it is android and hopefully when the new hardware version comes out they would not stop making updates to the current unit. The worst case we can always upgrade again
Hey, maybe this would now be 12" screen

Rooting by itself doesn't change anything, it allows things to be changed. I've custom baked ROM's before using 7Zip so I'm just curious what can be done with this, but that's also why I want the stock ROM that's flashable in case anything happens.

[E70'11]

Originally Posted by boneca

what sounds u referring to? sounds from the unit has nothing to do with "sounds" voice from navigation app! optical cable also has nothing to do with it! I don't use Sygic but in Waze if u connected center speakers wires u will get navigation voices coming from center speaker!

hope this helps!

Okay thanks, a bit of a confusion on the purpose of the actual optical cable itself. I would use Waze but I don't have a hot spot on my phone unfortunately

[boneca]

Originally Posted by E70'11

Okay thanks, a bit of a confusion on the purpose of the actual optical cable itself. I would use Waze but I don't have a hot spot on my phone unfortunately

sorry for the confusion, like I mentioned I think you confusing audio output from the unit itself (Music, Video) which are usually transmitted with help of optical cable and AUX cables (in some cases) and output from Navigation application which routing little bit different, that's why u will need to use specific speaker cable connected.

I'm not sure what kind of phone you have that don't have a Personal Hot spot available (I believe all recent iPhones and Android phones have this option) not sure what its called in Android phone as I'm using iPhone.
Anyway you won't be able to use Waze without internet connection but you might be able to use Sygic as u can download maps to use offline!

Look in to usb WiFI modem option, this will make you Avin experience much better!

[E70'11]

Originally Posted by boneca

sorry for the confusion, like I mentioned I think you confusing audio output from the unit itself (Music, Video) which are usually transmitted with help of optical cable and AUX cables (in some cases) and output from Navigation application which routing little bit different, that's why u will need to use specific speaker cable connected.

I'm not sure what kind of phone you have that don't have a Personal Hot spot available (I believe all recent iPhones and Android phones have this option) not sure what its called in Android phone as I'm using iPhone.
Anyway you won't be able to use Waze without internet connection but you might be able to use Sygic as u can download maps to use offline!

Look in to usb WiFI modem option, this will make you Avin experience much better!

Well I have an iPhone 7 but I thought we pay for a hotspot verse the hotspot being readily available with our plans was all. After realizing I already have this with my current phone data Waze it is

[GWOCwinston]

Anyone have success running MHD on the unit and connecting to the car in real time? How did you wire it?

[boneca]

Originally Posted by GWOCwinston

Anyone have success running MHD on the unit and connecting to the car in real time? How did you wire it?

are u taking about MHD flasher?

[ddydrt]

Originally Posted by GWOCwinston

Anyone have success running MHD on the unit and connecting to the car in real time? How did you wire it?

im using mhd through the unit. i havent tried to flash with it yet but it does woek to monitor and to read and clear codes. ill probably try to flash a new map tonight when i get my dp installed... but as for wiring i just toss the obd cable over my steering wheel and connect it to one of the two usb ports from the unit inside my glove box

[GWOCwinston]

Thx guys!

[Deftronix]

After a while of playing around I am finding the unit extremely limited as far as 3rd party hardware support.

Don't know if its locked down to keep you from using other carplay devices, etc. or if the kernel was stripped of everything unnecessary to improve performance because what is under the hood is old hardware when it comes down to it. For example, Tidal is too resource intensive for it and cant load the main screen.

I have now tried 2 usb DACs that work fine on other androids but get no sound output on the avin even when configured for direct usb driver in Nuetron player. Wont pair with a carly gen1 (made for android). Cant pair with mosconi dsp bluetooth (specifically made for android app).. Can't pair BT keyboards or mice. Cant use torque with ODB cable.

I sure hope there is a good reason for the neutered bluetooth stack other than just keeping people buying their "accessory" hardware. I wonder if other manufactures 3rd party support is just as limited.

The concept of the product is awesome but its too bad the hardware was generations old on release (Rockchip PX3 / 1GB ram). Its a shame that a device with so much potential is so severely limited!

[m5james]

I'm guessing the Bluetooth options are from not having a low energy Bluetooth since I can't connect the stereo or a cheap $50 tablet to my JB4 yet I can connect a $100 tablet.

AVIN sent me a Google Drive link after I asked so that I could download the software and hopefully some custom baking can fix things.

[Deftronix]

Seems to me the custom bluetooth apk that takes over is @ fault. If the vanilla bt android implementation was there more might work. But like you mentioned about having problems pairing with cheaper tablets & devices , this hardware may definitely fall into that ballpark.

Any attempt to get pinouts / or technical information about capabilities of the unit was met with silence or a one word reply from support. They were however lightening quick with responses to basic questions.

I opened up the unit to get my own answers -

White paper / patent on the heart of the unit (pcb - ZXW850B)
https://patents.google.com/patent/CN205785237U/en

As far as custom baking a firmware look into RockChip Factory Tool v5.0 to read the firmware and imgRePackerRK 106 to start diving into the files, it will also help you re-encode the firmware if you make any adjustments.

[boneca]

Originally Posted by m5james

I'm guessing the Bluetooth options are from now having a low energy Bluetooth since I can't connect the stereo or a cheap $50 tablet to my JB4 yet I can connect a $100 tablet.

AVIN sent me a Google Drive link after I asked so that I could download the software and hopefully some custom baking can fix things.

Hi James is there a December's software update available? Last I had was from 11/11. Please let me know so I can get in touch with Tommy.

Thank you

[m5james]

Originally Posted by Deftronix

Seems to me the custom bluetooth apk that takes over is @ fault. If the vanilla bt android implementation was there more might work. But like you mentioned about having problems pairing with cheaper tablets & devices , this hardware may definitely fall into that ballpark.

Any attempt to get pinouts / or technical information about capabilities of the unit was met with silence or a one word reply from support. They were however lightening quick with responses to basic questions.

I opened up the unit to get my own answers -

White paper / patent on the heart of the unit (pcb - ZXW850B)
https://patents.google.com/patent/CN205785237U/en

As far as custom baking a firmware look into RockChip Factory Tool v5.0 to read the firmware and imgRePackerRK 106 to start diving into the files, it will also help you re-encode the firmware if you make any adjustments.

I'm sure it's more because they don't know as they're just resellers.

Honestly it sounds like you know more than I do...I've custom baked ROM's years ago using 7Zip but mostly to remove bloatware and add apps. I've never dine kernels or anything. I'd love your input, especially on the Bluetooth.

Switch to a different UI (other than NBT look) in the settings menu and you'll be able to play with Bluetooth more, your notifications bar will be different, etc. I'd be very happy if I could connect this to my JB4.

[m5james]

Originally Posted by boneca

Hi James is there a December's software update available? Last I had was from 11/11. Please let me know so I can get in touch with Tommy.

Thank you

11.22.2017 is the download I have vs either 12/2016 or 11/2017 running currently...I can't tell. I asked them how to even flash this and never got a reply.

[boneca]

Originally Posted by m5james

11.22.2017 is the download I have vs either 12/2016 or 11/2017 running currently...I can't tell. I asked them how to even flash this and never got a reply.

Thank you, yes I have the same it's 11/11 version. The package time stamp doesn't matter but if you look at u own screenshot u'll see the real time stamp 20171111

Thanks for checking

[m5james]

So 11/22/2017 is an update...how do we install it?

[boneca]

Originally Posted by m5james

So 11/22/2017 is an update...how do we install it?

no 11/22/2017 is when update was packaged, the real time stamp is seeing on the software version when installed which is 20171111 (11/11).
I assume you got the update somewhat recently and I got mine on November 25 so this means there is no update as of now...