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      08-11-2017, 03:59 PM   #23
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they should castrate him. 5 incidents in question over past couple years??? this guy is a ticking time bomb of another Aaron Hernandez story
Just a little over the top maybe? Hernandez was a cold blooded murderer. Not defending Elliott at all and I despise violence towards women, but maybe dial down the hyperbole a bit.
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^^ LMFAO!!! You wish. Better take another look at our depth chart. We are deep AF at the RB position.
That's a sweet time machine you have that took you back to 2013 when any of those guys were relevant.

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Just a little over the top maybe? Hernandez was a cold blooded murderer. Not defending Elliott at all and I despise violence towards women, but maybe dial down the hyperbole a bit.
maybe i could but at least i didn't initially proclaim to burn him at the stake. let's say he was actually found guilty, how would you feel if it was your mother, daughter, sister in that situation?
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maybe i could but at least i didn't initially proclaim to burn him at the stake. let's say he was actually found guilty, how would you feel if it was your mother, daughter, sister in that situation?
I don't have to much sympathy for abusers, with that said, I have been punched in my face by a woman and almost tyson'd her.
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maybe i could but at least i didn't initially proclaim to burn him at the stake. let's say he was actually found guilty, how would you feel if it was your mother, daughter, sister in that situation?
What part of "I despise violence against women" did you not understand? I simply thought your comparison with Hernandez was over the top ... never defended Elliott.

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Considering Brady essentially shit on the integrity of the entire game of football and the NFL and got 4 games..., yeah harsh is a understatement.

I'd rather see them force his ass to lo pay/dedicate his salary to help Womens Abuse Organizations and Charities and public service probation.
This is punishment for the entire team.
Maybe EZE will come back with a vengeance and win the superbowl like Brady did......





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Considering Brady essentially shit on the integrity of the entire game of football and the NFL and got 4 games..., yeah harsh is a understatement.
For someone who loves and admires women, as do I, how the hell can you even put the two in the same discussion.

One is a player who allegedly took a couple of pounds out of football and was found with no case to answer and the other allegedly belts a woman.

To quote the great Vincent Vega, "it's not even the same ballpark".

That's right it's the Pats, different set of rules apply!
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      08-12-2017, 02:14 AM   #30
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Key words... Allegedly.
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Pump your brakes bro. He wasn't married and we don't know if he "beat" anyone.
I know Cowboys haters are coming out in full force, but they're is more to this than we are hearing.
I think my point was that the league can do as it sees fit as someone had posted "innocent until proven guilty", so my point stands in that regard. Regardless if they were married or not. If the league is satisfied with their investigation they will do what they see fit. The NFL and many other pro sports are plagued with bad conduct off the field and they need to protect the brand.

And I'm not a cowboy hater either FTR.
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Considering Brady essentially shit on the integrity of the entire game of football and the NFL and got 4 games..., yeah harsh is a understatement.
Spoken like somebody who really doesn't give a shit about women.

Comparing beating a woman to allegedly .3 ftlbs underinflated footballs (that was absolutely proven inconsequential, since he won another yet trophy while under the biggest microscope) is beyond fucked up.
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Considering Brady essentially shit on the integrity of the entire game of football and the NFL and got 4 games..., yeah harsh is a understatement.


Yeah all that evidence against Brady was so compelling...
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      08-13-2017, 09:33 PM   #37
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Spoken like somebody who really doesn't give a shit about women.

Comparing beating a woman to allegedly .3 ftlbs underinflated footballs (that was absolutely proven inconsequential, since he won another yet trophy while under the biggest microscope) is beyond fucked up.
Welcome to the discussion. I already said IF (keyword) that act occurred, what my thoughts are towards him or any other wimp that would put hands on a woman. Apparently, the justice system where the alleged incident happened, did not even have enough of a case or proof to proceed. If you know and understand the legal system, you would know THAT says a lot! Now keep in mind, she fully cooperated too. Did you know she said in a message sent to and saved by this man, that "if he leaves her after going pro, she would ruin his career and life."
So unless you or anyone else here has inside information proving the man did assault her, then STFU!
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Honestly this is NFLPA's association fault for the big suspension. They gave all the power to Roger Goodell. He can do whatever he wants. The 6-game suspension was the current standard for domestic violence. They don't have to prove anything criminally to bring the hammer down. Still it's ridiculous that they have "compelling evidence" yet has shown nothing.They cited the incident, witnesses, DNA evidence yet nothing. This is just what the league is saying at this point. The whole point was for it to be transparent and they seem to be making stuff up as they go. They should have released all the info and make it clear that he's guilty. They had over 1 year to build a case and this is the best statement they can give? The league is a joke and this incident is not making it any better for their reputation.
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good, now everyone will see what Dak is really made of now. no more hiding.
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good, now everyone will see what Dak is really made of now. no more hiding.
This is absolutely true. That O-line ain't bad though.
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The accuser had it out for Zeke.

There is a reason charges were never filed. She is shady as f*ck.


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The accuser had it out for Zeke.

There is a reason charges were never filed. She is shady as f*ck.
She was caught lying on more than one occasion. He was paying her rent, car note, bills.... Zeke cut her off. She has no credibility if she was tried criminally, so Goodell just winged it by cherry picking evidence or implied "evidence."

The Giants kicker admitted to beating his wife, NFL had to separate Brown and his wife after he was drunk. I think he got like 2 games. Where's the consistency?
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She was caught lying on more than one occasion. He was paying her rent, car note, bills.... Zeke cut her off. She has no credibility if she was tried criminally, so Goodell just winged it by cherry picking evidence or implied "evidence."

The Giants kicker admitted to beating his wife, NFL had to separate Brown and his wife after he was drunk. I think he got like 2 games. Where's the consistency?
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I wouldn't go holding my breath for this suspension to stick. Apparently, the alleged victim is a "pathological and vindictive liar". And she is the very reason all charges were dropped against Zeke by the Columbus Prosecutor.

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Dallas Cowboys running back Ezekiel Elliott’s fight to get his six-game suspension for violating the NFL’s personal conduct policy reduced or eliminated will begin in earnest Tuesday with an official appeal to NFL commissioner Roger Goodell.

The basis of Elliott’s appeal will hinge partly on the testimony of ex-girlfriend Tiffany Thompson and her threats to “ruin his career,” including one that was racially based, according to sources.

Thompson’s domestic violence accusations from July 22, 2016, in Columbus, Ohio, are at the root of the NFL suspension.

Elliott, who was not arrested nor charged in the case, continues to maintain his innocence.

The Columbus city prosecutor said he didn’t believe that he could make a case because of conflicting and inconsistent information.

But following an extensive investigation during the past year, the NFL announced Elliott’s suspension Friday, saying it has photo and digital evidence supporting a finding “that [Elliott] engaged in physical violence against Ms. Thompson on multiple occasions during the week of July 16, 2016.”

Elliott’s appeal game plan includes highlighting Thompson’s already chronicled text messages encouraging a friend to lie to police about an alleged domestic assault on July 22, misleading testimony to NFL lead investigator Lisa Friel, and repeated threats to ruin his career after breaking off the relationship, per documents obtained by the Star-Telegram.

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After being told Elliott didn’t want her at his house on July 21 and he didn’t want her coming out with him, Thompson responded with: “Ok this is what you want? Ok then, I’m going to ruin your life. You will see. If I was you, I wouldn’t go out tonight.”

After being told she couldn’t come Elliott’s 21st birthday party, Thompson told him “that’s worst decision you made in your life. I’m going to ruin you life now.”

The report also details a text message in which Thompson told Elliott: “You better be smart. And not be a dumb man. B----, keep (messing) with the wrong, b----.”

After not being allowed into the after party, Thompson was heard yelling and screaming that “your career is over” and then proceeded to call the police.

Elliott is also “100 percent certain” that Thompson told him on July 22, “You are a black male athlete. I’m a white girl. They are not going to believe you.”
Per the documents, Friel was unable to give an clear endorsement of Thompson’s credibility because she repeatedly misled investigators.

The above threats were made on July 21 and the early morning of July 22, the date Thompson called police accusing Elliott of assaulting her while they were in a parked vehicle.

Text messages reveal she also asked a friend, Ayrin Mason, to lie about the alleged assault July 22.

The NFL acknowledges that Thompson wasn’t truthful about the alleged July 22 assault, which sparked the entire investigation.

But the NFL says it believes Elliott committed domestic violence against Thompson on three previous days that week.

On July 17, the NFL says, Elliott attacked Thompson at the Canvasback Lane apartments in Columbus, Ohio, causing injuries to her arms, neck and shoulders.

On July 19, the NFL says, there was another altercation at the Canvasback Lane apartments, causing injuries to her face, arms, wrist and hands.

On July 21, the NFL says, Elliott injured her face, neck, arms, knee and hips.

Elliott doesn’t deny being in the same apartment with Thompson during that week and says another male friend stayed with them the majority of the time, per a source.

Elliott denies that any domestic violence took place.

What remains unclear and what seems to be at the root of the discrepancy is why Thompson didn’t call police after the earlier assaults.

And why she waited until Elliott broke off the relationship and after she was barred from his birthday party to accuse him of the assault on July 22 and to follow through with her threats to ruin his career by calling the police.

Elliott, who has not talked to the media since the start of training camp, was escorted from the locker room following Saturday’s preseason game against the Los Angeles Rams.

But he made his feelings known on Twitter on Friday, saying he was “both surprised and disappointed by the NFL’s decision today, and I strongly disagree with the league’s findings.”

His representatives also blasted the NFL in a statement Friday for their “factual inaccuracies and erroneous conclusions” and promised “a slew of additional credible and controverting evidence will come to light” during the appeal.

It’s unclear what role Cowboys owner Jerry Jones will play in the appeal. But a source says Jones is “angry” about the suspension after being adamant that, after reviewing all of the league’s evidence, no assault occurred and Elliott would not be be disciplined.

Jones also has uncharacteristically not spoken with the media since the suspension.
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