BMW E70 X5 CIC Navigation Retrofit - Done !

[vinzer]

Hello all,

Just want to share with you my expirience in CIC Navigation and Entertainment System retrofiting to my BMW X5 E70 2007 vehicle.
It has been done during past two days by my good friends BMW Retrofit Team (Quebec, Canada)

First of all it is important to mention that when I went to the dealership, I was told that It is impossible to retrofit CIC Navigation System in to any BMW older than 2009 August or something. Secondly I was told that it is impossible to get such system installed because internal electrnical parts of BMW will never work together with new CIC.

I almost gave up but after that I found the guys not far from my city in Canada who actually performing any types of retrofitting for BMW vehicles including CIC retrofitting too, as well as any types of remote coding for your BMW. It was very good met! After meeting with them in person we "signed" the contract and they did my retrofit with my help of course I was picturing it and studing too.

So below are the pictures I've made.
Please feel free to ask me any questions about this retrofit.

Yeah and by the way - I want now to show to my stealership How it is impossible to retrofit CIC in my E70

[Relapse]

thats sick! how much did it cost you and does this idrive run flawlessy on your bimmer ?

[aeggroup]

Good job.....but can u tell us how much it cost ?????
I went to their website...the system itself cost $2,350 Canadians plus labor...so I assume its about $3 grand.... too much for just new look IMO.
But congrats anyway..looks good.

[vinzer]

It looks very good and it is totally different compared to my old CCC.
In total it cost me 2450$ CAD for the system and complete coding + installation (I was participating in the installation too).
In addition I am planing to activate my navigation with North American Maps (now there are European ones in the system ).
It will cost me some extra $$$ and I am working on getting from the BMW Retrofit guys the final price for the maps + activation.

[Patrys@BimmerTech]

Tell us how the TV tuner, DVD changer, PDC and the backup camera are working in this car if it has any of these?

[szj2020]

how is this affecting your warranty?

[vinzer]

Originally Posted by Patrys

Tell us how the TV tuner, DVD changer, PDC and the backup camera are working in this car if it has any of these?

I do not have TV tuner and DVD Changer in my vehicle. I have PDC and after installation it worked only partially (sound but no image). The solution to fix this issue was to change one module which is responcible for the PDC. It is located under the dashboard at the right side. The price I paid for this module (OEM) is 170$.
I also do not have rearview camera, I had just PDC installed originally

[vinzer]

Originally Posted by szj2020

how is this affecting your warranty?

Good question. I was warned by the installers that everytime I need to go to the dealer for the software upgrade I will have to switch back to my CCC. This procedure is very simple, just a 6 screws to remove, switch units and display and put everything back (30 minutes). New module which has been installed for PDC to work is fine to keep with the vehicle and no need to change back.

[aeggroup]

Hopefully you will not go to dealer for any repair.

[szj2020]

where in Chateauguay are they located? I'm going to St-Constance next week so I want to swing by.

[Patrys@BimmerTech]

Originally Posted by vinzer

I do not have TV tuner and DVD Changer in my vehicle. I have PDC and after installation it worked only partially (sound but no image). The solution to fix this issue was to change one module which is responcible for the PDC. It is located under the dashboard at the right side. The price I paid for this module (OEM) is 170$.
I also do not have rearview camera, I had just PDC installed originally

Unfortunately depending on the car spec one can expect many more issues with the CIC retrofit in the X5/X6.
Luckily you have just the PDC

[vinzer]

Originally Posted by szj2020

where in Chateauguay are they located? I'm going to St-Constance next week so I want to swing by.

Please drop an email to the guys from bmwretrofit.com (info@bmwretrofit.com) to scedule a meeting with them. I am in Montreal, not in Chateauguay

[vinzer]

Originally Posted by Patrys

Unfortunately depending on the car spec one can expect many more issues with the CIC retrofit in the X5/X6.
Luckily you have just the PDC

I know that today the other guy brought an E70 to them for CIC retrofit. Not sure if that vehicle is different from my but will let oyu guys know, even maybe will get some pictures of it too

[blue dragon]

So how much are the FSC codes going to cost you for
Voice control
Satellite radio
Bluetooth etc
I can see this getting expensive really quickly.
At least now there is some competition to Patrys' retrofitting service. He won't help you unless you ge tparts from him, and his prices are higher than Ebay or bmwretrofit.com

[vinzer]

Originally Posted by blue dragon

So how much are the FSC codes going to cost you for
Voice control
Satellite radio
Bluetooth etc
I can see this getting expensive really quickly.
At least now there is some competition to Patrys' retrofitting service. He won't help you unless you ge tparts from him, and his prices are higher than Ebay or bmwretrofit.com

It is expensive retrofit, especially because it is E70. The CIC for it cost more expensive than for E60 or E90 for example.
The price for the complete FSC solution (navi, maps, voice, bluetooth, SDARS) is about 1200$ in total. But it is not implemented yet. I decided to go step by step in order not to feel it "extremelly expensive"

[apw2607]

Originally Posted by aeggroup

Good job.....but can u tell us how much it cost ?????
I went to their website...the system itself cost $2,350 Canadians plus labor...so I assume its about $3 grand.... too much for just new look IMO.
But congrats anyway..looks good.

I just priced it up. Parts including the CIC main components, trim pieces and fsc codes comes in at around $4k .. Pre-coded. You would need to install the components yourself and would probably need additional coding once the components are installed. Bit too rich for my blood right now.

[Patrys@BimmerTech]

Originally Posted by vinzer

Please drop an email to the guys from bmwretrofit.com (info@bmwretrofit.com) to scedule a meeting with them. I am in Montreal, not in Chateauguay

Aren't you one of them?

Don't be so shy

[Patrys@BimmerTech]

Originally Posted by apw2607

I just priced it up. Parts including the CIC main components, trim pieces and fsc codes comes in at around $4k .. Pre-coded. You would need to install the components yourself and would probably need additional coding once the components are installed. Bit too rich for my blood right now.

The cost of this retrofit that OP posted is underestimated for the full package. Sure, you can do it in stages, but without the Navigation activated it's not really an option for most people. You can live without the Voice Control though.

Also the cost of additional parts and labor should be added if you have the backup camera or the PDC.

But if you ask me I really love the CIC

[vinzer]

Originally Posted by Patrys

Aren't you one of them?

Don't be so shy

Of course I am, I even have their banner in my signature. I am just a volunteer technical consultant for them since I have an Eng. degree and over 12 years expirience in the thechnical field. I am not the specialist in coding or retrofitting, more in wiring and electrical parts. This is why I do not want to take a risk and answer the questions related to the coding or pricing - which I do not know the answer for.


Yes I am shy

[Patrys@BimmerTech]

Originally Posted by vinzer

Of course I am, I even have their banner in my signature. I am just a volunteer technical consultant for them since I have an Eng. degree and over 12 years expirience in the thechnical field. I am not the specialist in coding or retrofitting, more in wiring and electrical parts. This is why I do not want to take a risk and answer the questions related to the coding or pricing - which I do not know the answer for.


Yes I am shy

I just checked my Skype and saw you asked me some questions related to coding (you even gave me your VIN and indeed you do not have the backup camera or the DVD changer installed ) as well as I saw your posts on the Russian forums where you got some help how to code something, so I don't really know why you are pretending to be somebody else.

I am not asking you any coding related questions btw

[chuzo]

so what new module should we get for the backup camera to work?

[blue dragon]

Ahh, so the retrofitters are battling it out. Patrys + Men (really dislike that guy) VS Vinzer and the bmw retrofit crew.

Either way, I'm not spending 4 grand just for a new look. I'd rather trade in my car and get something newer for not a lot more. ('11 model with the com box maybe)?