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      09-13-2020, 06:46 PM   #1
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Catch cans working

These catch cans worked. Last pic is for the can connected to the bank 1 CCV, 200 miles worth of vapors.
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These catch cans worked. Last pic is for the can connected to the bank 1 CCV, 200 miles worth of vapors.
Looks good and nice job. Any write up or steps for how you setup yours up? Looking to do the same on my 13' as well and just wanted to start piecing all the parts together including what cans you used. Also, are you able to use your engine cover with them installed on the partition like that?
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Looks good and nice job. Any write up or steps for how you setup yours up? Looking to do the same on my 13' as well and just wanted to start piecing all the parts together including what cans you used. Also, are you able to use your engine cover with them installed on the partition like that?

The catch cans: http://www.radiumauto.com/Universal-Dual-Catch-Can-P189.aspx

You'll need 10AN fittings for the catch can. I would get two 90 degree bends and two straight connections.

You'll need 6-8ft of 5/8 hose.

As for the engine cover, the piece that goes over the turbos may need to be cut on the right side so it clears the catch can. I don't run the covers anyway.
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These hoses listed as 1 and 2 need to he connected together but separated from the rest of the CCV. Essentially all you are doing is connecting both banks so that the pressures on each side are equal (as one turbo will work a little better than the other almost always by a small degree).
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Awesome post. I dont mind doing this too. Can you post pics of which catch connected where on your car? Thanks.

For the catch cans does this look right:

Universal Dual Catch Can
14-0193 10AN ORB to Barb for 5/8in Hose
14-0193 10AN ORB to Barb for 5/8in Hose
14-0193 10AN ORB to Barb for 5/8in Hose
14-0193 10AN ORB to Barb for 5/8in Hose
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      09-20-2020, 09:29 PM   #6
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Awesome post. I dont mind doing this too. Can you post pics of which catch connected where on your car? Thanks.

For the catch cans does this look right:

Universal Dual Catch Can
14-0193 10AN ORB to Barb for 5/8in Hose
14-0193 10AN ORB to Barb for 5/8in Hose
14-0193 10AN ORB to Barb for 5/8in Hose
14-0193 10AN ORB to Barb for 5/8in Hose


I'll get some more pics but right off the bat you're gonna need the following

10AN 90° male to female (x3)
10AN male to male (x4)
5/8 Barb to 10AN female (x4)

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My MPG improved on the highway after adding these ... by a pretty good amount too ... glad I added them when I put my turbos on so much oil gets collected.
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My MPG improved on the highway after adding these ... by a pretty good amount too ... glad I added them when I put my turbos on so much oil gets collected.
Nice, ya, these are a must
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Awesome post. I dont mind doing this too. Can you post pics of which catch connected where on your car? Thanks.

For the catch cans does this look right:

Universal Dual Catch Can
14-0193 10AN ORB to Barb for 5/8in Hose
14-0193 10AN ORB to Barb for 5/8in Hose
14-0193 10AN ORB to Barb for 5/8in Hose
14-0193 10AN ORB to Barb for 5/8in Hose


I'll get some more pics but right off the bat you're gonna need the following

10AN 90° male to female (x3)
10AN male to male (x4)
5/8 Barb to 10AN female (x4)
Awesome. Thank you!
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I'll get some more pics but right off the bat you're gonna need the following

10AN 90° male to female (x3)
10AN male to male (x4)
5/8 Barb to 10AN female (x4)
Thanks and really look forward to the pics. Especially want to define what connections need to be made and where as I'm considering doing this to mine soon as well since I have very little mileage and want to keep the carbon build up somewhat at bay.
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Took some pics.
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From bank 1 catch can.

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These hoses listed as 1 and 2 need to he connected together but separated from the rest of the CCV. Essentially all you are doing is connecting both banks so that the pressures on each side are equal (as one turbo will work a little better than the other almost always by a small degree).
Dawgz - thanks again for posting all of this can you just clarify again the connections as I'm getting a bit lost in the pics? From the PCV schematic above are you eliminating the T-sections (with oil separators/flaps) and essentially connecting hoses 1,2 and 3 directly together with AN Barb fittings? Also, is the top feed hose to the catch can on the far right (closest to the driver front strut tower) going to the opposite (passenger side) valve cover via, the heat shield crossover? Also, it looks like you installed and connected sections of hose with OEM sytle Oetiker Crimp connections where the PCV sections were removed and did you cut any sections out? Sorry for the barrage of questions, just want to do this right as I'm not very familiar with this motor yet and not with FI setups as I've always worked on NA. Let me know when you can and any steps or advise you have would be very helpful.
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Dawgz - thanks again for posting all of this can you just clarify again the connections as I'm getting a bit lost in the pics? From the PCV schematic above are you eliminating the T-sections (with oil separators/flaps) and essentially connecting hoses 1,2 and 3 directly together with AN Barb fittings? Also, is the top feed hose to the catch can on the far right (closest to the driver front strut tower) going to the opposite (passenger side) valve cover via, the heat shield crossover? Also, it looks like you installed and connected sections of hose with OEM sytle Oetiker Crimp connections where the PCV sections were removed and did you cut any sections out? Sorry for the barrage of questions, just want to do this right as I'm not very familiar with this motor yet and not with FI setups as I've always worked on NA. Let me know when you can and any steps or advise you have would be very helpful.
Hope I can answer your questions below. Please feel free to ask more as it'll help anyone else that's looking to do this also.

• Hoses 1 and 2 are directly connected but with just a 5/8" ID hose. These hoses are connected directly to the intake manifold and doing this will allow the pressures of both banks to equalize.

• don't worry to much about where the inlet hose and outlet hose are going for the vent to intake, right now mine are indeed crossed as I need to route one of the hoses so that it can go to the correct side. However even with this routing there is no negative impact.

• yes, these are ear clamp at the original sections as those don't have strong barbs that fit super snug to the 5/8 hose. It fits just right but it's always good to use ear clamps at these connections so that there are no leaks. These are super cheap to get off amazon and you can get the tool for it also. You won't need these clamps at the AN fitting where there are 5/8 barbs. When you remove the original pieces, you will see the plastic tubing comes off the main connection ends, exposing connections for the 5/8 to fit. If it doesn't come off easily, heat the end a little with a hear gun.

Hope this helps, but as I mentioned, please let me know if anything is still vague.
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Hope I can answer your questions below. Please feel free to ask more as it'll help anyone else that's looking to do this also.

• Hoses 1 and 2 are directly connected but with just a 5/8" ID hose. These hoses are connected directly to the intake manifold and doing this will allow the pressures of both banks to equalize.

• don't worry to much about where the inlet hose and outlet hose are going for the vent to intake, right now mine are indeed crossed as I need to route one of the hoses so that it can go to the correct side. However even with this routing there is no negative impact.

• yes, these are ear clamp at the original sections as those don't have strong barbs that fit super snug to the 5/8 hose. It fits just right but it's always good to use ear clamps at these connections so that there are no leaks. These are super cheap to get off amazon and you can get the tool for it also. You won't need these clamps at the AN fitting where there are 5/8 barbs. When you remove the original pieces, you will see the plastic tubing comes off the main connection ends, exposing connections for the 5/8 to fit. If it doesn't come off easily, heat the end a little with a hear gun.

Hope this helps, but as I mentioned, please let me know if anything is still vague.
That answers a lot and after studying the pictures a bit more it's clear and not too complicated. I did also notice you had the banks alternated between the catch cans and was wondering - LOL. One last question, see the attached schematic and the circled connections to the Intake/VC and in essence you are just removing these parts? Do the connections just pull apart or did you have to do any cutting?
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That answers a lot and after studying the pictures a bit more it's clear and not too complicated. I did also notice you had the banks alternated between the catch cans and was wondering - LOL. One last question, see the attached schematic and the circled connections to the Intake/VC and in essence you are just removing these parts? Do the connections just pull apart or did you have to do any cutting?
Correct those flaps are removed.. that is a one way valve but the tri-connection there is no longer needed. Also with these catch cans from Rodium, you don't need a one way valve in the path and that's why those parts are removed.

No cutting is needed, the parts pull apart to expose ends that will accept a 5/8" hose.
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Correct those flaps are removed.. that is a one way valve but the tri-connection there is no longer needed. Also with these catch cans from Rodium, you don't need a one way valve in the path and that's why those parts are removed.

No cutting is needed, the parts pull apart to expose ends that will accept a 5/8" hose.
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Hey Dawgz, one (hopefully) last question:

Do you think the following hose would work as well? The ID is a bit smaller and I'm not sure if it would slip over the Intake and VC connections, what do you think as you've put this on? The braided will give it a bit better look and help out with the heat in the engine bay to keep the hose from collapsing when it gets warm.

https://www.amazon.com/EVIL-ENERGY-S...8F7KXZ1QKV6TG7

Will probably have to go with different connections at the catch can as the braided style will use the braided screw-on AN fittings. What do you think?
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Hey Dawgz, one (hopefully) last question:

Do you think the following hose would work as well? The ID is a bit smaller and I'm not sure if it would slip over the Intake and VC connections, what do you think as you've put this on? The braided will give it a bit better look and help out with the heat in the engine bay to keep the hose from collapsing when it gets warm.

https://www.amazon.com/EVIL-ENERGY-S...8F7KXZ1QKV6TG7

Will probably have to go with different connections at the catch can as the braided style will use the braided screw-on AN fittings. What do you think?


Although it looks great, that size ID may be a bit to tight. It's hard as it is with the 5/8" to slip them on. They fit real snug.

Btw corrected the routing.
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Dawgz - what size clamps did you use? I got 1" as the out OD of the tubing is big, but they look too big.
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Dawgz - what size clamps did you use? I got 1" as the out OD of the tubing is big, but they look too big.
You can use one that will fit 15mm-18mm.
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Terrific descriptions and great job. I am in NYC and was wondering if I need some help might you be nearby to advise? If you are not comfortable answering I totally get it, no worries.
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