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      11-02-2021, 05:47 PM   #4753
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saw that posted on sunday in my group IG chat, that video is gnarly a.f., a little gruesome for sure
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saw that posted on sunday in my group IG chat, that video is gnarly a.f., a little gruesome for sure
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Graphic Content Warning next time, please. That was horrible.
My apologies to you guys. I'm so desensitized to tragedy and mangled bodies that those visuals weren't really that bad to me. On average I see at least 4-5 dead bodies a week (…traffic collision deaths, gunshot victims, etc.).
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My apologies to you guys. I'm so desensitized to tragedy and mangled bodies that those visuals weren't really that bad to me. On average I see at least 4 dead bodies a week.
I mean it's not crazy gruesome, just some people are not used to seeing kind of mangled bodies or blood like that. The video has a disclaimer that you have to click anyways so people should be prepared before they see it.
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My apologies to you guys. I'm so desensitized to tragedy and mangled bodies that those visuals weren't really that bad to me. On average I see at least 4 dead bodies a week.
I mean it's not crazy gruesome, just some people are not used to seeing kind of mangled bodies or blood like that. The video has a disclaimer that you have to click anyways so people should be prepared before they see it.
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      11-03-2021, 10:33 AM   #4757
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My apologies to you guys. I'm so desensitized to tragedy and mangled bodies that those visuals weren't really that bad to me. On average I see at least 4-5 dead bodies a week (…traffic collision deaths, gunshot victims, etc.).
I've come across some pictures here. It's truly amazing, once you get past the fact that used to be a person, how the meat bag can bend/twist after the person leaves.
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Tactical training with 9mm simulation paint rounds. Love this stuff!

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Tactical training with 9mm simulation paint rounds. Love this stuff!
What's pushing the paint? Can't be CO2 right?

I'd be a fan too.

Do they feel any different than a regular paintball when you get hit?
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      11-03-2021, 03:08 PM   #4761
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Tactical training with 9mm simulation paint rounds. Love this stuff!
What's pushing the paint? Can't be CO2 right?

I'd be a fan too.

Do they feel any different than a regular paintball when you get hit?
They are loaded using 9mm primers. They just have paint tips. They hurt far less than paintball munitions.


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Yeah. 2.0's.
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Tactical training with 9mm simulation paint rounds. Love this stuff!
That training was lots of fun, some decent welts if you got tagged.
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Tactical training with 9mm simulation paint rounds. Love this stuff!
That training was lots of fun, some decent welts if you got tagged.
I caught one in the forearm today on a two-deputy traffic stop scenario where a "bystander" raising commotion on the sidewalk in an attempt to disrupt my stop began firing at us. I took him out and had to apply a tourniquet on myself. All good training.
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I caught one in the forearm today on a two-deputy traffic stop scenario where a "bystander" raising commotion on the sidewalk in an attempt to disrupt my stop began firing at us. I took him out and had to apply a tourniquet on myself. All good training.
That's just not fair...I want to play too.
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I caught one in the forearm today on a two-deputy traffic stop scenario where a "bystander" raising commotion on the sidewalk in an attempt to disrupt my stop began firing at us. I took him out and had to apply a tourniquet on myself. All good training.
That's just not fair...I want to play too.
You have the Cali invite, remember?
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You have the Cali invite, remember?
I remember. Will you let me play with the sirens and you gun?
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I remember. Will you let me play with the sirens and you gun?
Yep!!! You can play with alllllllllll of the guns.
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I'd say "get a room", but I'm sure Steve would say "I'm trying!" So I'll just let you guys do your thing lol
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I'd say "get a room", but I'm sure Steve would say "I'm trying!" So I'll just let you guys do your thing lol


I cracked up laughing!
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So, are these "prop guns"???
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So, are these "prop guns"???
They are Gen 1 M&P 9mm handguns with the barrels swapped out. The barrels in the training guns shoot 9mm paint rounds. If you were to swap the barrels, they'd fire regular 9mm rounds.
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They are Gen 1 M&P 9mm handguns with the barrels swapped out. The barrels in the training guns shoot 9mm paint rounds. If you were to swap the barrels, they'd fire regular 9mm rounds.
Hence the blue. The magazine is yellow, but would still hold a 9mm round?


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They are Gen 1 M&P 9mm handguns with the barrels swapped out. The barrels in the training guns shoot 9mm paint rounds. If you were to swap the barrels, they'd fire regular 9mm rounds.
Hence the blue. The magazine is yellow, but would still hold a 9mm round?


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The slides are painted blue and the bottoms of the magazines are painted yellow just to add visual cues. The paint round is a 9mm round, but with a paintball tip rather than a bullet. It's still the same casing, primer, etc. It is still capable of live fire.
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The slides are painted blue and the bottoms of the magazines are painted yellow just to add visual cues. The paint round is a 9mm round, but with a paintball tip rather than a bullet. It's still the same casing, primer, etc. It is still capable of live fire.
In your scenario below, would you have still been able to take the shooter out after he hit your arm with a real projectile? So you would have to swap hands on the trigger?

It's great that you can get these "as close to real world training" done, feel at least a level of the stress involved.

It's the part of CPR training that is missing for me. I know they have the much more expensive Annie, that can simulate breath and heart, and report on correct compression levels, amount of air entering the lungs, etc. My worksite won't spring for us to get that training level I still go every year when I see it offered.
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