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Amazing deal. I drove one a few weeks ago and what the OP says is dead on. Very comfy (better ride than my E90M), ridiculously quick and with instant throttle response. Not really my cup of tea (prefer N/A, RWD, light, MT) but it is a great car and esp. at that price!
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Your PoV is a completely rational one. For many people, though, emotion clouds their rational thinking when buying a car (especially a $100k car). For others, it's all about convenience, get a lease for 2-3 years, never have to worry about major maintenance, selling the car, etc. For me, I am all over the place. I finance, lease and own all at the same time depending on the car and use of the car. |
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11-20-2017, 09:27 AM | #73 |
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A few more $$ will get you the Bugatti beating Tesla Roadster (0-60 in 1.9 seconds, 250+ top speed, quarter mile in 8.9 seconds, 0-100 in 4.2), all for just $200k, oh yeah and 610 mile range. (200 kWh battery, twice as much as model s P100d
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In four years maybe... Kind of irrelevant.
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A few problems though.. First; it costs about 50k more. Second; it's electric and no fun. Third; that's 3 years away. Fourth; Elon is almost sure to under deliver, you can't have 600 mile range if you drive it "fun" aka racing, drag, etc. He can't completely change battery technology in 3 years. Fifth; no chance in hell I'm putting aside purchasing a car for over 3 years on some empty promise, only to buy a car with no emotion or fun. Sorry, but that's a horrible idea. I have been in a P90D (not the newest one) and while the launch is insane. It's not all that fun, it feels like you are getting launched on a roller coaster. |
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Let's not go counting all our proverbial eggs before they're hatched. There will be no new Roadster without Model 3 sales, and right now, that's a pretty tenuous bet.
Plus there are all sorts of goofball Aston Martins, McLarens and other supercars in the pipeline that could very easily eclipse anything Mr Moonbeam has dreamt up. |
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Folks have been predicting the demise of Tesla for years but none of that has come to pass. In all likelihood the Semi and the Roadster will see the light of day given all previously announced products eventually did come to market, though at a longer timeframe than originally promised. Also, Tesla has already sold over 400k model 3's, they just have to make them (though of course there will be some cancellations, but I don't think they'll have any problem with demand).
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There's a pretty big delta between selling 400k (or 500k) cars and having $1000 deposits for the same number. If the current trend keeps up, they'll be lucky to have 4k actual sales.
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Not valid until it is available to be bought and driven by the public. Technically you could lease the NSX to the end of the agreed term prior to receiving delivery of your Roadster, if and when it eventuates. You'd be better off investing the $200000 until 2021 when the Roadster comes out. I have no problem with EVs but it doesn't matter how fast it is, it still won't elicit the same amount of satisfaction as a manual, RWD, ICE vehicle. Why do you think the 911R and new 991.2 GT3 are manual and people are eating them up? Why does Caterham still exist? Faster ≠ better. |
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This type of car (for $200k) would probably appeal most to the tech millionaires and it will appeal to them the same way a new iPhone appeals to me. Slightly better processing, camera, interface, etc... will be the same as slightly better acceleration, new GPS, new interior tech. Many car enthusiasts like different cars from different points in time. E30 M3s, air cooled Porsches, V8 AMGs, etc. for their unique attributes that is from an era. Roadster 2.0, 3.0, 4.0 etc will just become a disposable appliance that customers will return to Tesla for a new model, and Tesla will just take the Roadster apart and reuse in new cars. |
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Eventually all cars will be electric whether we like it or not and people will stop whining about the engine not making any noise, just like folks claiming film cameras were better than digital but now that they're gone people aren't missing loading film and developing negatives and storing them in physical albums.
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Why own a depreciating asset? That makes no sense. I'll use it for three years, have a full warranty, pay the pre-paid maintenance and call it a day. Let the auto manufacturer deal with the time and money of trying to sell it.
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