06-03-2009, 06:23 PM | #23 |
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i liked the X6 until i saw the above pic. it doenst look right there. almost like a cheapo shit bodykit on a saloon.....it doesnt look like an SUV there at all....gotta be the odd angle?!
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06-03-2009, 06:24 PM | #24 |
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I dont think they "fucked up" per se'. Their just makin' money. It's like calling a rock band sell outs caused they signed on to a major label. It's not gonna keep people from buying m3's, m5's and m6's. Now people are going to buy x6m's and x5m's aswell.
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06-03-2009, 06:28 PM | #25 | |
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http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=248494 here a good thread to understand why people are mad |
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06-03-2009, 09:41 PM | #26 | |
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So the argument is that BMW is turning their backs on their "loyal fan base" of M buyers? To begin with, this fan base isn’t a particularly large % of the BMW consumer base to begin with. Then we can reduce that percentage of the M fan base by those who aren’t personally offended by BMW's choice to produce these vehicles, and the number of personally offended BMW M-enthusiasts shrinks even further. Should BMW worry that a handful of people will stop buying M cars? The automotive world is in constant flux, it would be stupid of the BMW development group to NOT include a vehicle to compete with the Porsche Cayenne’s and the Mercedes AMG trucks. What will the M enthusiasts, who think of this as a personal affront, say when BMW M division replaces their traditionally naturally aspirated engines with forced induction engines to compete with the changing markets? Furthermore, where will these dedicated enthusiasts go? Will they start driving Mustangs for their naturally aspirated engines? Do you think BMW will lose customers because of their choice to produce M-trucks to compete in the ever-changing market? If they are so offended by BMW's choice to produce M-division trucks it will be hypocritical of them to drive MB's whose AMG tuning department also has a line of trucks, or Porsche's, with their Cayenne's. The fact is, most of them will continue to buy M cars. Lets face it, the BMW marketing department probably has a better idea of what will be best for their business than some BMW forum members and M-enthusiats who feel personally betrayed by a large automotive companies choice to make more money. Things will always change and I suppose there will always be a percentage of the customer base who feels as though they are in some way important, when in reality, they arent.
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06-03-2009, 10:32 PM | #27 | |
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German car companies are passionate about cars, in contrast US car companies are passionate about money. Today US auto industry is being dismantled in the most disrespectful way into small parts and being sold off at dirt cheap prices.
The point I am trying to make, is that if you let money become the priority in life it is only a matter of time before you have nothing to offer. I am sure this hideous piece of machinery will bring a descent amount of profit to the company, I mean why wouldn't it? There are plenty of one-uppers that would love to get it just to impress their next door neighbor. What it is going to take away from BMW is the meaning of the letter ///M. Soon enough that letter will represent nothing more than a trim... you know much like the R/T symbol on Chryslers. In auto industry reputation takes decades to build and only years to tarnish. BMW is still riding on their Motorsport Division reputation from the 70s and 80s. So while the actual # of true BMW gear heads right now is small, those are the folks leading the wave. When they leave the brand it will turn into nothing but a company building glorified Civics for the upper middle class. ...but then again... to each his own. Wanna know what ///M used to stand for? come visit me, I'll take you for a spin in the greatest ///M ever built. Quote:
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06-03-2009, 10:41 PM | #28 | |
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I understand where your coming from but ///M has always stood for ///Money. Car companies are big business, the ///M division dumped the 1 series after 3 years because it wasnt making any money, even though it was a brilliant car. The only reason BMW's racing division started producing M cars for the public market was money. Come to Long Island and you will see that your fear of BMW's becoming glorified civics for the upper middle class is already the truth. The fact is, the ///M division will continue to produce brilliant performance cars, and people will continue to buy them. Dont fool yourself into thinking that BMW's M division was ever about anything other than money. The M cars have never been an exercise in engineering like the Bugatti Veyron, on which VW takes a massive loss. They have always been about producing extremely well made performance cars and making a profit for BMW. By the way, while we may not agree on the future, or the past, of the M division, I do agree that your E30 M3 represents the pinnicle of the M-car and the only M-car with a true racing pedigree.
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The best (or worst) part is - the X6 only seats 4l! |
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06-04-2009, 08:29 AM | #39 |
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I'm still trying to figure out why anyone is comparing any X6 to any Cayenne. One is an SUV and the other is a SAV. You can't put a trashcan full of shit in the X6 while the Cayenne probably holds 4 shit-filled trashcans.
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06-04-2009, 09:28 AM | #40 |
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The M-Badge alone will spike sales... simply becasue of the afore mentioned "one -uppers". Opinions aside, that's the bottom line.
What I don't understand is that this $90,000+ car doesn't have the LED front turn signals like mine. I'd still take the X6M though. |
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06-04-2009, 09:43 AM | #42 |
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Nice work! The only thing more retarded than an X6M is a dropped X6M. You know they make cars that are lower to the ground, sit 4 and go fast, they call them sedans usually.
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06-04-2009, 10:24 AM | #44 |
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Yeah but this helps us folks who are vertically challenged. At 6'8" it's hard for me to find a car I'm actually comfortable in. Surprisingly my 335 coupe does an OK job with comfort for someone my size, although it is at max capacity and no human could ever sit behind me. I really wanted a car having had to drive SUV's and trucks for years and the 335 coupe pretty much fit me and just about had everything I was looking for. These SUV/SAV's always have more interior room then the cars. That x6 maybe on the radar in the next couple of years.
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