F1 2021: Hungarian GP - Budapest (Aug 1)

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Of course Max uses his eyes & mirrors!!! As stated before, IMHO, Max turned in because he saw HAM brake and presumed he backed out.

There is a great video on YouTube if I can find it. It concentrates solely on Nico Hulkenburg's eye movement for an entire lap. The number of times Nico checks his mirrors is unbelievable!!! I would think most F1 drivers are just as capable or they wouldn't be alive.

Not quite the video I was thinking of but still INTERESTING!!!!

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Not quite the video I was thinking of but still INTERESTING!!!!

Love the Hulk !

[Autobacs]

Speaking about Checo at RB, any thoughts on whether he should be retained or replaced?

I expected more from him, given his experience.

[racerbruce]

Originally Posted by 243Racing

I honestly have no idea, with regards to how much or little Max uses his mirrors.

I can say that mirrors on open wheel cars aren't particularly useful, especially when traveling in a bend at that speed. Max likely had a pretty good sense of where HAM was.

If it was one of our races, it would have been ruled HAM's fault and he would have been DQ'd and likely suspended for a race. Our rules state that it's the overtaking driver's responsibility to complete a pass safely, and contact to the rear wheel/quarter panel area that causes damage and/or deviation from the line is a textbook 'punt' and would result in the aforementioned penalties. Obviously...F1 has different rules

Your comments that "Max likely had a pretty good sense of where HAM was" is unfounded and foolish....VER pinched off the apex and closed the door on HAM who was NEXT TO VER....so perhaps VER should return to Driving 101 and use his mirrors

[243Racing]

Originally Posted by racerbruce

Your comments that "Max likely had a pretty good sense of where HAM was" is unfounded and foolish....VER pinched off the apex and closed the door on HAM who was NEXT TO VER....so perhaps VER should return to Driving 101 and use his mirrors

The assumption that a Formula 1 driver has enough spatial awareness to have a good idea where a car he's battling with is positioned is "unfounded and foolish"

You Hamilton fans are something else...

[Autobacs]

Originally Posted by 243Racing

The assumption that a Formula 1 driver has enough spatial awareness to have a good idea where a car he's battling with is positioned is "unfounded and foolish"

You Hamilton fans are something else...

Not so much Hamilton fans but more on someone in here, regardless on who they support, saying than an F1 Driver should go to Driving 101.

[243Racing]

Originally Posted by Autobacs

Not so much Hamilton fans but more on someone in here, regardless on who they support, saying than an F1 Driver should go to Driving 101.

Lol...true

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by Autobacs

Speaking about Checo at RB, any thoughts on whether he should be retained or replaced?

I expected more from him, given his experience.

Give him one more year, The new car might suit his driving style better. Dude can drive but probably doesn't like the car.

[Bubbles]

It’s going to be a very interesting weekend.

Lasers shooting out of Max’s eyes, Bottas seemed interested.

[243Racing]

Originally Posted by Bubbles

It’s going to be a very interesting weekend.

Lasers shooting out of Max’s eyes, Bottas seemed interested.

Lewis...baby...what is that outfit?

[minn19]

Originally Posted by 243Racing

The assumption that a Formula 1 driver has enough spatial awareness to have a good idea where a car he's battling with is positioned is "unfounded and foolish"

You Hamilton fans are something else...

Why’d Max turn in on him then? Besides thinking Lewis would back off again?

[243Racing]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Give him one more year, The new car might suit his driving style better. Dude can drive but probably doesn't like the car.

Had to scroll up to see you weren't talking about Danny Ric. They're both struggling, but I'd be shocked if they didn't turn it around

[minn19]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Give him one more year, The new car might suit his driving style better. Dude can drive but probably doesn't like the car.

Agreed, also he’s the only second driver since RIC to win in a RB in quite awhile. Plus he’s given Max some support here and there. I know the other two want The Hulk, but he’s not driving in F1 for a reason and no team seems too interested in him for those reasons. Nothing against the Hulk as I like him to.

[SenorFunkyPants]

Originally Posted by minn19

Why’d Max turn in on him then?

Indeed.

Originally Posted by minn19

Besides thinking Lewis would back off again?

Most likely.
Hamilton has shown good sense in the past to back out of situations where Verstappen was making his trademark "pass or crash" manoeuvre...going on to win championships.

Using the sort of pragmatic intelligence that Verstappen so clearly lacks.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Bubbles

It’s going to be a very interesting weekend.

Lasers shooting out of Max’s eyes, Bottas seemed interested.

Standing in line in the dinner line he he ''I'll make you a good lasagne hammy..at first''
I like everyone else looking their own way pretending everything is normal

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Bubbles

It’s going to be a very interesting weekend.

Lasers shooting out of Max’s eyes, Bottas seemed interested.

Hold my beer !!!

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Autobacs

Speaking about Checo at RB, any thoughts on whether he should be retained or replaced?

I expected more from him, given his experience.

This mate ...

[rwheels]

[M5Rick]

Both Ham and Vettel are now sticking their noses into Hungary's political business. It's none of their F* business to publicly speak out while driving in a different country on a subject that concerns a lot of childrens parents.

[243Racing]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Both Ham and Vettel are now sticking their noses into Hungary's political business. It's none of their F* business to publicly speak out while driving in a different country on a subject that concerns a lot of childrens parents.

Vettel? That's surprising , doesn't strike me as someone who bothers much with politics

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by 243Racing

Vettel? That's surprising , doesn't strike me as someone who bothers much with politics

Lately he's turned that way into a 'save the planet warrior,' anti pollution and now other political things doing it for self promotion I think, suspicious as five minutes ago he was wanting V12's back in F1.

[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by minn19

Why’d Max turn in on him then? Besides thinking Lewis would back off again?

He didn't.
Max turned his steering wheel because a 300kph+ corner was coming up
(corner...means the straight ends.... means turning the steering wheel....)


He left room for HAM.
HAM decided to not use that room and didn't follow a racing line. The FIA was very clear on that.

You can also see that in the difference in how HAM placed his car in Copse when he tried to overtake Max and how he tried to overtake LEC.