01-22-2021, 09:23 PM | #89 | |
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The biggest issue therefore is perhaps not how BMW classifies it performance oriented vehicles but more likely that 'true M' owner snobbery comes into play here as both M and Mperformance versions are classified and reported as one in BMW terms. |
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01-24-2021, 02:18 PM | #91 | |
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On the global site, all tiers of M products are listed under “M”: https://www.bmw.com/en/bmw-models.html |
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01-24-2021, 06:34 PM | #92 |
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I don't think there's anywhere in the world the situation to care more about a badge than in US
Totally different culture in Europe! You can see an M Sport 330d, an M340d and an M3 one next to the other, no badges on the trunk and either person totally happy with his choice! What BMW reports is one thing put together by the Marketing Dept, what makes you happy to drive is the effort done initially by a Technical Dept. What can be wrong here to get that mad?! 😁 |
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I guess I don’t fit their paradigm, but I want it all and still want it with a manual. I could’ve dealt with the new nose on the M3 and “downgraded”, but not when the manual means no AWD and no Competition pack and no one can seem to develop remote start with 3 pedals. AWD manual with any sports orientation at all is down to what Subaru? |
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01-25-2021, 07:19 AM | #94 | |
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For AWD and a stick, I'm afraid you'd have to go back in time.
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I wholeheartedly agree they should not count as M cars, they simply aren't
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Whilst we all know the Mperformance lineup is not true M, BMW classify them as one (as they have always done) since they are both performance oriented. |
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Ridiculous marketing gimmick, with the influx of fake AMG drivers on the road with 43s etc, BMW felt the need to catch-up and make every 40i/50i model an M, I love options so don't get me wrong, but this is diluting the brand tremendously when a FWD based 235 can be considered a M car next to the M5 CS lol...
At least Audi separates it between S and RS, BMW and AMG are doing nothing for their high performance and enthusiast customer base |
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