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I dont believe tesla was found legally at fault in any of the crashes involving autopilot. That said it's possible that they had to settle in some lawsuits with NDAs. Uber was not found at fault for the death caused in accident with its self driving taxi test program
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Which proves my point. It's not self driving if you need to pay attention, the moment you need a person to pay any sort of attention the technology is not only useless but worse than the current state as lulls a false sense of security.
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Last week, Tesla released an early version of its long-awaited "full self-driving" software to a limited number of customers. It was arguably Tesla's biggest Autopilot update ever. The software enables Tesla vehicles to autonomously navigate the vast majority of common roadway situations and complete many trips from start to finish. Tesla considers it to be beta software and says it's not intended for fully autonomous operation. Drivers are expected to keep their eyes on the road and hands on the wheel at all times. This will take at least a decade. Last edited by Murf993; 10-30-2020 at 08:29 AM.. |
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I equate the false sense of security perceived by Tesla's AutoPilot (or anyone's autopilot) to operating a dishwasher. No one watches their dishwasher wash the dishes. A dishwasher is a fully autonomous operation. FSD like AutoPilot (Tesla's official name) is not a fully autonomous operation, it has to be watched by the driver. Tesla instructs the driver he must watch the car drive while in AutoPilot. I would find that utterly boring and easily distract myself with other activities. Being that I actually care about my life, I'd rather apply my attention to actually controlling the vehicle rather than watch a computer attempt to drive the car. I use a dishwasher to free my time from mundane tasks to focus my attention to other things, like entertaining dinner guests after dinner. If the dishwasher screws up, no one dies; I correct the problem and just start it over. If a person finds driving a mundane task, then they should hire someone to drive them around. I'm just not in the camp of thought that autonomous driving is going to reduce accidents and fatalities if all other aspects of the current driving environment remain the same. That means no sperate lanes for autonomous vehicles, no reduction in average traffic speed, and no decrease in traffic volume.
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A manual transmission can be set to "comfort", "sport", and "track" modes simply by the technique and speed at which you shift it; it doesn't need "modes", modes are for manumatics that try to behave like a real 3-pedal manual transmission. If you can money-shift it, it's a manual transmission. "Yeah, but NO ONE puts an automatic trans shift knob on a manual transmission."
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Waymo is level 4 autonomy. It can operate in full self driving mode.
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On a four lane freeway with 80 MPH speeds in the rain and under construction? I'd love to see that.
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And not just in the roads that they have trained it on in California. I am all for baby steps, but lets not portray the Waymo solution as an all encompassing solution when its not there yet
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Tesla has pushed an update to its first beta. For now all beta users are required to keep a hand on the wheel (not sure if enforced or just an agreement)
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There really are countless situations that will cause autonomy to fail miserably. Color me impressed when they can safely travel in the snow.
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A concern I have is further babying our youngins, letting their fancy new EVs drive for them mostly, until the conditions worsen where the car just gives up and asks the human driver to take over. The human may be worse than the machine in some instances. Just can't wait for this to "improve life". "Hey Dad, I was going to come over and see you, but the car didn't like the snow." Lol. |
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