I don't like BMW's new design language

Yugo · 12-17-2019, 01:31 PM

I look at the new stuff that comes from our dearly beloved car brand, pretty much any new BMW that has rolled off the production line in the last 5 years including enthusiast loved M2, and simply no matter how hard I try I find nothing that I like. I would even go ahead and say the new M2 looks ugly. Nothing like an E46 where some try to compare it to.

To me E46 was the top and everything after it was just down hill looks wise. I do love my S65, and would say that it is one of the best engines put in an M car , period. Watched the episode of whealer dealer the other day where they are restoring an E46 and wanted my old one so bad!

Understand the whole turbo and hybrid approach most manufacturers have to take, but come on at least make your cars somewhat good looking. Saw the new 3 series on the street this week and that solid grill is just horrendous.

Anyone else feel this way? Wonder if it's an age thing, where at some point you like cars of your past better and stop following new trends.

upstatedoc · 12-17-2019, 01:33 PM

just how old are you?

VisualEcho · 12-17-2019, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Yugo

I look at the new stuff that comes from our dearly beloved car brand, pretty much any new BMW that has rolled off the production line in the last 5 years including enthusiast loved M2, and simply no matter how hard I try I find nothing that I like. I would even go ahead and say the new M2 looks ugly. Nothing like an E46 where some try to compare it to.

To me E46 was the top and everything after it was just down hill looks wise. I do love my S65, and would say that it is one of the best engines put in an M car , period. Watched the episode of whealer dealer the other day where they are restoring an E46 and wanted my old one so bad!

Understand the whole turbo and hybrid approach most manufacturers have to take, but come on at least make your cars somewhat good looking. Saw the new 3 series on the street this week and that solid grill is just horrendous.

Anyone else feel this way? Wonder if it's an age thing, where at some point you like cars of your past better and stop following new trends.

I think it's partly your age(we all get locked in our era), but it's also just personal taste. I find that a lot of times I'm just late to the party. I won't usually like the new model until the even newer model comes out, and I'm like hey, I guess the last version wasn't so bad.

The E46 was my favorite for years, but it's looking a bit dated to me now, especially the front headlight area. What once gave me the impression of strength and aggression about the car now looks soft to me.

There are a few things I don't like about the M2, styling-wise, like that weird line on the side of the rear bumper, and the chunky front that's cool, but could have been done better, but overall I think it's a beautiful car.

F32Fleet · 12-17-2019, 01:48 PM

Starting with the E90 I don't really like the high belt line of today's cars but it seems all automakers are using it so it's not a deal breaker.

upstatedoc · 12-17-2019, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Yugo

To me E46 was the top

my all time favorites are the E46 M3 and E39 M5

hybris · 12-17-2019, 01:55 PM

Yes.

Alfisti · 12-17-2019, 02:02 PM

A lot is driven by regulations. Well the grille is not but the high belt line is as is pedestrian safety re. the front end.

upstatedoc · 12-17-2019, 02:05 PM

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Yes.

#whippersnapper

TXSTYLE · 12-17-2019, 02:05 PM

To answer OP question.... YES.

Yapakanichi · 12-17-2019, 02:07 PM

Yea you old AF! I'm joking. Nah man I'm only 35 and I'm like meh' when it comes to a lot of the new cars today. It's hard for me to get excited for a car nowadays that I didn't love growing up....

still waiting for Toyota to redo the MR2 right....waiting....wishing...

upstatedoc · 12-17-2019, 02:10 PM

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still waiting for Toyota to redo the MR2 right.

ban

Turkish Pickle · 12-17-2019, 02:11 PM

Back in my day bmw had small kidney grills...and eta engines that redline at 950rpm...good old days...
These godam milennials destroyed everything

upstatedoc · 12-17-2019, 02:15 PM

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These godam milennials destroyed everything

pot calling the kettle black

F32Fleet · 12-17-2019, 02:25 PM

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These godam milennials destroyed everything

pot calling the kettle black

He was being sarcastic.

Red Bread · 12-17-2019, 02:36 PM

High door sills are the devil. Kept me out of the Z4MC, one of an infinite number of things I hated about our 135i, and something I dislike about many modern cars, but not all. BRZ and ND Miata are fine.

Also, coupes should have rear windows that at least vent. Surely it's not expensive to keep that feature. And while you're at it, please move my window switches back by manual gear lever, mmkay?

46, going on 87.

Turkish Pickle · 12-17-2019, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by upstatedoc

pot calling the kettle black

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He was being sarcastic.

i posted it in all caps but BP automatically did that which kinda took the boomer posting online part out of it hahahaha

Yapakanichi · 12-17-2019, 02:45 PM

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And while you're at it, please move my window switches back by manual gear lever, mmkay?.

THIS. I miss this most about my Z3.

Red Bread · 12-17-2019, 02:47 PM

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And while you're at it, please move my window switches back by manual gear lever, mmkay?.

THIS. I miss this most about my Z3.

You don't miss the steamed lasagna noodle rear subframe? Or the marshmallow rear shock mounts?

F32Fleet · 12-17-2019, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Bread

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And while you're at it, please move my window switches back by manual gear lever, mmkay?.

THIS. I miss this most about my Z3.

You don't miss the steamed lasagna noodle rear subframe? Or the marshmallow rear shock mounts?

haha...so true.

infinitekidM2C · 12-17-2019, 04:45 PM

That grill is shit, don't care what type of undergarment you're wearing.

The Libertine · 12-17-2019, 05:07 PM

Everything changes. Either you can adapt to -or accept the new styling cues, or should consider another brand.

dreamingat30fps · 12-17-2019, 06:05 PM

Strictly design wise I like some of them, some not so much, especially the ones with the weird new grill. I don't find them amazing, but they look alright.

That being said I don't like BMWs anymore. Pretty much since the Bangle cars and them getting rid of the NA engines. I agree with the e46 being the pinnacle for me, however I would imagine that has more to do with that being the model that was out around the same time I was getting more into cars and BMWs.

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Alfisti Brigadier General 6908 Rep 3,259 Posts Drives: 2008 Saab 9-3 Combi Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Toronto, Canada iTrader: (0)	A lot is driven by regulations. Well the grille is not but the high belt line is as is pedestrian safety re. the front end.
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Red Bread Major General 4457 Rep 9,160 Posts Drives: Smog machines Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Austin, TX iTrader: (0)	High door sills are the devil. Kept me out of the Z4MC, one of an infinite number of things I hated about our 135i, and something I dislike about many modern cars, but not all. BRZ and ND Miata are fine. Also, coupes should have rear windows that at least vent. Surely it's not expensive to keep that feature. And while you're at it, please move my window switches back by manual gear lever, mmkay? 46, going on 87.
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