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Well, too many great cars but too little budget.
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If that’s the new vette that’s nuts. It looks like a super car
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08-10-2018, 08:49 AM | #71 |
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It's the C8.R (racing) with a 5.5L V8 twin cam w/ flat-plane crankshaft. The base C8 will debut with the 6.2 pushrod borrowed from the C7. There's probably going to be a huge price gap between base and racing, more so than the GT350 and GT350R.
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Precisely. That's a C8 racer. Puppy won't be street legal.
As for the comments that front-engined 'vettes won't ever die ... in case y'all haven't noticed, high-performance sports cars period are dying -- and the ones that are surviving are primarily mid-engine and, in the case of the 911, rear-engine designs. Why? Primarily to accommodate hybridization, at a minimum. It's just the way things are going. Chevy gets that. It's among the reasons why the Viper died. It's why Aston Martin DBxs are clinging to life behind the Vulcans and other mules. It's why the upcoming Supra will be the last true, ICE-only high-performance sports coupe Japan will ever produce. It's why the GT-R hasn't been refreshed. It's why Jaguar hasn't replaced the F-Type. Shall I go on? Front-engine high-horsepower sports cars are slowly going the way of the dodo.
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lets face it most people who buy mid engine or 911s don't ever take them to the track where they shine lap after lap. it's for show, badge and 0-60 bragging rights. the intro of tesla roadster in 2025(optimistic) will shift the market outlook. |
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08-10-2018, 05:58 PM | #75 |
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EV's will rule this market. Most of the top tier tires used for N'Ring times are totally trashed after one flying lap, so the times are certainly no where near repeatable lap after lap. It won't be long until an EV can run 13.2 miles flat out.
Amusingly, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Taycan post absurdly fast times when it arrives. |
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The F-type is not old and doesn't need replacing. There is a next generation GT-R in the works. Have you forgotten about the insanely capable and fast Mustang GT350R, Challenger Hellcat? Camaro ZL1 and Z28? M4 GTS/CS? Jaguar just introduced a 600hp super sedan Project 8. Mercedes AMG GTS? TT-RS? M2 CS? the upcoming 500hp+ Alfa GTV? The next generation 'muscle car' is supposed to get SMALLER. Even better... Hybridization is certainly trendy and will be increasing but there are still loads of ICE high powered sports and sporty cars around. Personally i'd like to see LESS power, MUCH LESS weight, and more enthusiasm. People are so focused on totally irrelevant lap times and have forgotten what makes cars FUN. it's not lap times.....it's the FEEL of them. Nurburgring lap times are the most useless criteria that's involved motoring culture in years.
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Not for a while, hybrid setups with electric motors driving the front wheels with energy stored from braking will rule for a while methinks.
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I love that my Stingray’s engine is easy to get to. The Boxster is a nightmare. Definitely handles nice. Although the Stingray on paper is equivalent in the turns, you have to work harder to get those levels of grip.
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W. Edwards Demming defined "quality" as "fitness for use". Considering the Corvette has always been a sports car that provides a level of driving performance on the order of halo cars from other European manufacturers for half or two-thirds the price, I'd say, the 'Vette has been a high quality car for some time now.
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So where did the adamant mid-engine deniers go? Or the ones that swore it would be a Cadillac? LOL
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A Cadillac would be a big mistake - huge!
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Oh yeah!
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GM Trademarks the Mid-Engine Corvette Name of ZORA Across the World…Including China!
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