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      09-11-2024, 10:11 AM   #8367
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Originally Posted by Watching The World Burn View Post
I'm sure LE has training in de-escalation, at least I would think they do. But why do you feel that it is not right for them to match energy with like energy? Why must they de-escalate in your opinion?

You've got a tinted car that is difficult to see through, a state that floridaorange mentioned you are legally allowed to carry (I have no idea whether you can or not though being a Canadian - and he didn't say Tyreek had a gun, just that he would be legally allowed to have one) - the cop doesn't know who has one and who doesn't every time they walk up on a tinted vehicle, so it seems reasonable to me that you would assume everyone has one until proven otherwise, just to keep yourself safe and situationally aware.

From there, you have an entitled clown in the form of Tyreek Hill who is disobeying lawful orders and barking at the officer to "give him his ticket so he isn't late". Why is it on the cop to de-escalate this situation then? All that does is further breed this sense of entitlement that I think is prevalent in a certain generation who has been raised with little discipline and even fewer consequences across a broad range of parents from all races. It isn't a race thing. Its an attitude / behaviour issue. Maybe next time he just keeps his window down, accepts the ticket and then pursues legal (and rightful) actions to fight the ticket if he disagrees with it?

None of this had to go the way it did. But it did because of Tyreek's actions. It isn't racism.
Agreed! To add to this, in the second video posted, you can see Hill making furtive movements in the car as he looks around the vehicle, and he also engages his seat belt. In my mind, I would immediately begin asking myself the following questions because the behavior is suspicious….
  • Does he have drugs?
  • Does he have a weapon?
  • Is he going to shoot me through this tinted glass?
  • Is he preparing to drive away from this legal detention?
  • If he speeds away, do I have enough to engage in a pursuit?
  • Do the risks of a pursuit outweigh the potential benefits of chasing/catching him (..e.g. risk to the public)?

It’s the kind of thing that will make the hair on the back of the neck of any street cop stand up.
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