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evanevery · 01-28-2013, 05:59 PM

So, I've had my 2013 X6M almost 10 months now... I really like the vehicle but there appears to be one really bonehead design element (or lack there of)...

Is it just me, or does anyone else find it simply incredulous that a vehicle of this pedigree would not automatically switch between day and night modes wrt to the Nav/Map display? Sure you CAN switch it by hand, but wtf?

Even the very cheapest Nav systems switch between day and night modes based on Time of Day, local calculated sunrise/sunset, the auto headlight sensors, or whether the headlights are simply on or off...

It seems really senseless (pun intended) to have to manually switch off the glaring daytime map display when running the vehicle at night.

This all works automatically in my M6, so whats up with this in the X6M? I'm wondering if this stupidity can be resolved with a firmware or nav system update...

As I'm sure someone will likely come up with some carefully fabricated reason why manual switching is the far superior method, at least BMW should give us the option to enable auto-switching...

UAxDEATH(NYC) · 01-28-2013, 07:44 PM

Honestly m8 I hate the auto switching into the night mode. I love it as it is. just my opinion.

ep99 · 01-28-2013, 07:45 PM

At least you can set it up with a programmable memory button.

One touch of a button and you can switch between NAV night/day mode

mikikuki7 · 01-28-2013, 09:01 PM

I definitely think its really stupid not to have it switch automatic... At least not for a $90k vehicle...

rodell · 01-28-2013, 09:57 PM

I agree. I now leave it in night mode so I don't fumble with it.

Annoying.

I have both Mercs and this X6. I wonder what some of these guys were thinking. My Acura (2010 ZDX) has far better technology integration, although not as much grin factor!

Rek · 02-02-2013, 10:42 PM

Yes. Its a royal pain in the a$$$. My Infiniti FX did it automatically. The BMW Nav needs some serious upgrades compared to the Japanese cars

x6Hawkeye · 02-03-2013, 09:00 AM

Totally agree, has been a pet peeve of mine for yrs. Didn't do it automatically on my '11 and doesn't do it on my '13.

I programmed one of the programmable buttons just for this.

I recently had a X3 as a loaner and it had an "Auto" option. You would think this would be a simple software update...

evanevery · 02-04-2013, 09:39 AM

Even my (gulp) chevy does this...

So we all know cars that auto-switch. I think a better question might be does anyone know another car brand that DOESN'T?

zerrantoss · 02-05-2013, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evanevery

Even my (gulp) chevy does this...

So we all know cars that auto-switch. I think a better question might be does anyone know another car brand that DOESN'T?

Not only the NAV day/night switch is annoying, my auto-headlight also works bad.

Sometimes even when it is bright outside (maybe 4-5PM), the headlights would stay on...
I now just use the light switch manually.

Most things about this car can be automatic but they aren't.

Even my dad's Camry can do better.

evanevery · 02-05-2013, 11:00 AM

Well, at least there ***IS*** an auto headlight switch!

(BTW - I believe the auto lights may come on if the sun is low on the horizon - not just in darkness. This may be by design.)

evanevery · 02-05-2013, 11:02 AM

Anyone want to submit a petition to BMW to get this updated in the next Nav release?

Anyone know to whom we would send it?

doubleroll · 02-20-2013, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ep99

At least you can set it up with a programmable memory button.

One touch of a button and you can switch between NAV night/day mode

How did you save that? I saved a button with night mode on and now all saved buttons have night mode on. How do you switch back to day mode?

ep99 · 02-21-2013, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by doubleroll

How did you save that? I saved a button with night mode on and now all saved buttons have night mode on. How do you switch back to day mode?

Hmm...as far as I know...its pretty straight forward.
Pick the day/night mode and save it in one of the programmable memory button.
And pressing the memory button will switch between mode each time.

Lucabratsi · 02-22-2013, 10:12 AM

I just got a call yesterday that my 2013 X6M has some Nav recall/update that needs to be done. I will bring the car in on Monday, and update as to what is changed. Does anybody know what this is?

Cheers,

evanevery · 02-25-2013, 09:52 AM

Hey Luca!

I haven't got any notifications yet. I did press BMW pretty hard through other channels about this major FAIL in their Nav system, but I really don't expect it possible that they could have, or would have, done anything this quickly.

If you bring your car in, please get the details and pass it on!

Lucabratsi · 02-28-2013, 05:26 PM

Hello, just got vehicle back. Sorry no upgrade for night/day auto for Nav. I also asked if they new this was a problem, and they are aware. I cant notice anything different. Does anybody know what is updated in this Nav/recall?
Cheers,

JUSTIN335 · 03-03-2013, 02:19 AM

I just checked my car (2013 X5M) and the screen does dim. And I'm pretty sure our cars are like 95% the same components. The amount change between day and night mode is proportional to the brightness setting.

If you have it on full brightness, it will barely dim from day to night mode.

If you have it on the lowest brightness, the screen almost turns off when going from day to night (still visible during the day in day mode)

I'm not sure if this was already known and you guys are talking about something different but I'm just sharing what I found.

01-28-2013, 05:59 PM	#1
evanevery Private First Class Drives: 2013 X6M & 2013 M6 Convertible Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 131 iTrader: (0)	Nav System Day/Night Mode So, I've had my 2013 X6M almost 10 months now... I really like the vehicle but there appears to be one really bonehead design element (or lack there of)... Is it just me, or does anyone else find it simply incredulous that a vehicle of this pedigree would not automatically switch between day and night modes wrt to the Nav/Map display? Sure you CAN switch it by hand, but wtf? Even the very cheapest Nav systems switch between day and night modes based on Time of Day, local calculated sunrise/sunset, the auto headlight sensors, or whether the headlights are simply on or off... It seems really senseless (pun intended) to have to manually switch off the glaring daytime map display when running the vehicle at night. This all works automatically in my M6, so whats up with this in the X6M? I'm wondering if this stupidity can be resolved with a firmware or nav system update... As I'm sure someone will likely come up with some carefully fabricated reason why manual switching is the far superior method, at least BMW should give us the option to enable auto-switching...
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JUSTIN335 . Drives: 2013 X5///M Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Carlsbad/Laguna Beach Posts: 308 iTrader: (1)	I just checked my car (2013 X5M) and the screen does dim. And I'm pretty sure our cars are like 95% the same components. The amount change between day and night mode is proportional to the brightness setting. If you have it on full brightness, it will barely dim from day to night mode. If you have it on the lowest brightness, the screen almost turns off when going from day to night (still visible during the day in day mode) I'm not sure if this was already known and you guys are talking about something different but I'm just sharing what I found. __________________ 2013 X5M 2007 E92 335i - sold

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01-28-2013, 07:44 PM	#2
UAxDEATH(NYC) Second Lieutenant Drives: BMW X6M 2013 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Brooklyn NY Posts: 239 iTrader: (0)	Honestly m8 I hate the auto switching into the night mode. I love it as it is. just my opinion.

01-28-2013, 07:45 PM	#3
ep99 Private First Class Drives: 2013 X6M Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Markham Posts: 150 iTrader: (0)	At least you can set it up with a programmable memory button. One touch of a button and you can switch between NAV night/day mode

01-28-2013, 09:01 PM	#4
mikikuki7 Private First Class Drives: 2012 BMW 335i Melbourne Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: McAllen, TX Posts: 136 iTrader: (0)	I definitely think its really stupid not to have it switch automatic... At least not for a $90k vehicle...

01-28-2013, 09:57 PM	#5
rodell New Member Drives: 2010 X6 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 15 iTrader: (0)	I agree. I now leave it in night mode so I don't fumble with it. Annoying. I have both Mercs and this X6. I wonder what some of these guys were thinking. My Acura (2010 ZDX) has far better technology integration, although not as much grin factor!

02-02-2013, 10:42 PM	#6
Rek Dark Knight Rises Drives: 2013 BMW X6 3.5/2009 FX35 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: CT/NYC Posts: 59 iTrader: (0)	Yes. Its a royal pain in the a$$$. My Infiniti FX did it automatically. The BMW Nav needs some serious upgrades compared to the Japanese cars

02-03-2013, 09:00 AM	#7
x6Hawkeye 2013 X6 xDrive50i M Package Drives: 2013 X6 xDrive50i Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Lancaster, PA Posts: 69 iTrader: (0)	Totally agree, has been a pet peeve of mine for yrs. Didn't do it automatically on my '11 and doesn't do it on my '13. I programmed one of the programmable buttons just for this. I recently had a X3 as a loaner and it had an "Auto" option. You would think this would be a simple software update...

02-04-2013, 09:39 AM	#8
evanevery Private First Class Drives: 2013 X6M & 2013 M6 Convertible Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 131 iTrader: (0)	Even my (gulp) chevy does this... So we all know cars that auto-switch. I think a better question might be does anyone know another car brand that DOESN'T?

02-05-2013, 11:00 AM	#10
evanevery Private First Class Drives: 2013 X6M & 2013 M6 Convertible Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 131 iTrader: (0)	Well, at least there *IS* an auto headlight switch! (BTW - I believe the auto lights may come on if the sun is low on the horizon - not just in darkness. This may be by design.)

02-05-2013, 11:02 AM	#11
evanevery Private First Class Drives: 2013 X6M & 2013 M6 Convertible Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 131 iTrader: (0)	Anyone want to submit a petition to BMW to get this updated in the next Nav release? Anyone know to whom we would send it?

02-22-2013, 10:12 AM	#14
Lucabratsi Enlisted Member Drives: 2013 X6M Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: NJ Posts: 49 iTrader: (0)	I just got a call yesterday that my 2013 X6M has some Nav recall/update that needs to be done. I will bring the car in on Monday, and update as to what is changed. Does anybody know what this is? Cheers,

02-25-2013, 09:52 AM	#15
evanevery Private First Class Drives: 2013 X6M & 2013 M6 Convertible Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 131 iTrader: (0)	Hey Luca! I haven't got any notifications yet. I did press BMW pretty hard through other channels about this major FAIL in their Nav system, but I really don't expect it possible that they could have, or would have, done anything this quickly. If you bring your car in, please get the details and pass it on!

02-28-2013, 05:26 PM	#16
Lucabratsi Enlisted Member Drives: 2013 X6M Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: NJ Posts: 49 iTrader: (0)	Hello, just got vehicle back. Sorry no upgrade for night/day auto for Nav. I also asked if they new this was a problem, and they are aware. I cant notice anything different. Does anybody know what is updated in this Nav/recall? Cheers,