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wcs5678 · 10-29-2012, 05:38 PM

Which do you think its better? Pirelli Scorpion Ice and Snow Runflats vs Winter Carving Edge Runflats.

I am deciding between these for my winter setup, mostly city driving, lots of snow and ice where I live in the winter. Price is about the same for the 20's setup.

Thanks.

Sydney · 10-30-2012, 12:18 AM

I went with the Pirelli Scorpion Ice and Snow Runflats used them two winters now and think they are great. Live in Northern Alberta.

I went 19" with rims 255/50 19

1230vani · 10-30-2012, 04:52 AM

I have Pirelli Scorpio, often criticized on the web, but i like them. Also Pirelli (in Europe) offers a free two year warranty on tires (insurance). So whatever happens, they send you a new tire. BMW offers bridgestone, which i do not like and more importantly BMW pricing and NO insurance.

Kanuc · 10-30-2012, 08:56 PM

Sorry, had the Scorpions and was not a big fan. I now have the Bridgestone WM-25s. I like them enough. Fact is, the X6 is a 5000lb elephant, so you can't expect miracles. Unless you get studded tires of course.

doug_999 · 10-31-2012, 04:40 AM

Check out tirerack.com for some reviews. Also look into Nokian tires. Amazing.

wcs5678 · 10-31-2012, 11:01 AM

Appreciate all the answers i will do more research, but quickly as winter is almost here!

Tmac · 11-01-2012, 02:42 AM

I had the Ice and Snow (came w X6) in Edmonton and was pretty happy. My wife has run Nokians on her last few vehicles and those are my winter tires of choice. Fantastic tire.

xcfloyd · 11-03-2012, 12:51 PM

Great question. I've actually had both. I had the Ice and Snows on my 2010 X5 and loved them. I just picked up my new 2013 X6 in July and thought I would give the carving edge a try on my new winter wheels. They are even burlier then the I&S. They handled amazing in the rain and snow during sandy. Heres a pic. I would highly recommend either.

jcraigo · 01-20-2013, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doug_999

Check out tirerack.com for some reviews. Also look into Nokian tires. Amazing.

Help needed! New to the site, my M arrives on Monday and is going to be used by a hockey mom, about 20000 miles a year. Going to run 22's in the summer but I need to order something Monday AM to use in the winter.

1. Scorpion Ice/Snow 275/40/20 and 315/35/20

2. Nokians WRG2 275/40/20 all the way around on the stock 10" and 11"
wheels

Thnx in advance, sorry to bring this topic up AGAIN....

Poleposition · 01-20-2013, 04:01 PM

I went with the Scorpions and retained the staggered setup. Very Happy. Not in snow more than few days per winter. I like their behavior on the road. Their snow performance is good as well.

Tmac · 01-21-2013, 08:48 AM

Nokians, although 275 are stretched pretty tight on the rear wheels.

jcraigo · 01-21-2013, 10:20 PM

Went with the Ice / Snow, hope I made the right call.
Really wanted to try the Nokians but needed them ASAP, tire rack will will have the ice/snows on my door Wed, mounted on Thur., 5 hour drive to hockey on Friday.
Other concern with the Nokians was the stretch as Tmac said on the rear. Anything will be better then stock.

dkreidel · 01-22-2013, 10:45 AM

I just went through this on my X5M. I felt the stock 20" staggered wheels probably weren't going to cut it for the long Montana winter so I bought a set of 9x19" 298M wheels. For me the tire choice was between Blizzaks and Pirellis. I chose the new Pirelli Winters over their decade old Ice and Snow design primarily from the recommendations of the Cayenne crowd. The Pirelli Scorpion Winter was just introduced this fall and is to replace several of the Pirelli winter product lines. My size, 255/50x19, is available as both runflat and non-runflat.

I can't tell you how they are yet as the truck won't be going to Montana for 3 more weeks

Jimshorts · 01-22-2013, 11:18 AM

Ive got my ice and snows on my stock 20s and they work awesome.

Poleposition · 01-22-2013, 11:29 AM

Nice Jim!

Pex5 · 01-30-2013, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wcs5678

Which do you think its better? Pirelli Scorpion Ice and Snow Runflats vs Winter Carving Edge Runflats.

I am deciding between these for my winter setup, mostly city driving, lots of snow and ice where I live in the winter. Price is about the same for the 20's setup.

Thanks.

The Scorpions are high speed snows whereas the Winter Carvings have a lower speed rating, cost less and are better in snow/ice (presumably worse on dry pavement). Scorp. I&S is a half baked snow tire - now called a winter tire (which I run on the X and like) and the other is a more dedicated hard core, old school snow tire.

Pirelli has a new redesigned v rated winter tire. That's the best bet IMHO.

Regards,
DRP

Patrick66 · 02-05-2013, 02:11 PM

I'm stationed in Germany and have Scorpians on my X5M. Great tires. No traction or handling problems at all.

10-29-2012, 05:38 PM	#1
wcs5678 x6 Drives: BMW Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 8 iTrader: (0)	Winter Pirelli's Which do you think its better? Pirelli Scorpion Ice and Snow Runflats vs Winter Carving Edge Runflats. I am deciding between these for my winter setup, mostly city driving, lots of snow and ice where I live in the winter. Price is about the same for the 20's setup. Thanks.
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10-30-2012, 08:56 PM	#4
Kanuc Private First Class Drives: 2009 X6 50i, 2011 335i xdrive Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Calgary Posts: 158 iTrader: (0)	No to Pirelli Sorry, had the Scorpions and was not a big fan. I now have the Bridgestone WM-25s. I like them enough. Fact is, the X6 is a 5000lb elephant, so you can't expect miracles. Unless you get studded tires of course.

10-31-2012, 04:40 AM	#5
doug_999 Captain Drives: 2012 X6 50i/2011 1M Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 668 iTrader: (0)	Check out tirerack.com for some reviews. Also look into Nokian tires. Amazing. __________________ 2012 Vermillion X6 50i -CWP, Vent Seats, Tech, Sport, Premium Sound, Premium, Active Steering, 3 rear seats, BMW Apps, Space Saver Spare 2011 1M, Black loaded sans sat radio

11-03-2012, 12:51 PM	#8
xcfloyd New Member Drives: 2013 BMW X6 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 15 iTrader: (0)	Great question. I've actually had both. I had the Ice and Snows on my 2010 X5 and loved them. I just picked up my new 2013 X6 in July and thought I would give the carving edge a try on my new winter wheels. They are even burlier then the I&S. They handled amazing in the rain and snow during sandy. Heres a pic. I would highly recommend either. Attached Images

01-20-2013, 04:01 PM	#10
Poleposition ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Drives: very well Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NY Posts: 932 iTrader: (0)	I went with the Scorpions and retained the staggered setup. Very Happy. Not in snow more than few days per winter. I like their behavior on the road. Their snow performance is good as well. __________________ 20135 21" DPE Super Concave, Meisterschaft GTC w/LXR midpipes, BMC filters, Charcoal delete, H&R springs, IND cosmetic pkg, M-Performance Spoiler, Wrapped roof, Hardwired V1, Coded 2013 X6 50i MSport 2008 SmartCar - 2012 Wrangler Unlimited

10-30-2012, 12:18 AM	#2
Sydney Enlisted Member Drives: 2011 X6 50i Join Date: May 2010 Location: Fort McMurray,Alberta Posts: 32 iTrader: (0)	I went with the Pirelli Scorpion Ice and Snow Runflats used them two winters now and think they are great. Live in Northern Alberta. I went 19" with rims 255/50 19

10-30-2012, 04:52 AM	#3
1230vani Captain Drives: X6 40d Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 723 iTrader: (0)	I have Pirelli Scorpio, often criticized on the web, but i like them. Also Pirelli (in Europe) offers a free two year warranty on tires (insurance). So whatever happens, they send you a new tire. BMW offers bridgestone, which i do not like and more importantly BMW pricing and NO insurance.

10-31-2012, 11:01 AM	#6
wcs5678 x6 Drives: BMW Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 8 iTrader: (0)	Appreciate all the answers i will do more research, but quickly as winter is almost here!

11-01-2012, 02:42 AM	#7
Tmac Private Drives: 07 335i Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Edmonton Posts: 85 iTrader: (0)	I had the Ice and Snow (came w X6) in Edmonton and was pretty happy. My wife has run Nokians on her last few vehicles and those are my winter tires of choice. Fantastic tire.

01-21-2013, 08:48 AM	#11
Tmac Private Drives: 07 335i Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Edmonton Posts: 85 iTrader: (0)	Nokians, although 275 are stretched pretty tight on the rear wheels.

01-21-2013, 10:20 PM	#12
jcraigo New Member Drives: 2012 X6M Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: WI Posts: 14 iTrader: (0)	Went with the Ice / Snow, hope I made the right call. Really wanted to try the Nokians but needed them ASAP, tire rack will will have the ice/snows on my door Wed, mounted on Thur., 5 hour drive to hockey on Friday. Other concern with the Nokians was the stretch as Tmac said on the rear. Anything will be better then stock.

01-22-2013, 10:45 AM	#13
dkreidel Private First Class Drives: a lot of BMW's Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NW Montana Posts: 163 iTrader: (0)	I just went through this on my X5M. I felt the stock 20" staggered wheels probably weren't going to cut it for the long Montana winter so I bought a set of 9x19" 298M wheels. For me the tire choice was between Blizzaks and Pirellis. I chose the new Pirelli Winters over their decade old Ice and Snow design primarily from the recommendations of the Cayenne crowd. The Pirelli Scorpion Winter was just introduced this fall and is to replace several of the Pirelli winter product lines. My size, 255/50x19, is available as both runflat and non-runflat. I can't tell you how they are yet as the truck won't be going to Montana for 3 more weeks __________________ 2014 M6 vert on order • 6MT • Montreal Blue+Amaro Brown • Munich delivery summer '13 2013 X5M Carbon Black+Black • BBS SV 2012 650 Vert AW+Cinnamon • 6MT • Munich delivery 9/11 2011 Z4 Mojave+Beige • 6MT • Munich delivery 9/11 Last edited by dkreidel; 01-22-2013 at 01:06 PM.

01-22-2013, 11:18 AM	#14
Jimshorts Private First Class Drives: x5m Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Live free or die Posts: 150 iTrader: (0)	Ive got my ice and snows on my stock 20s and they work awesome. __________________ 2010 BMW X5 M Eurocharged: 12.298 @ 112.860 MPH Tune only. 2005 E55 AMG 11.93 @ 117 1/4 mile 7.75 @ 95 1/8mile tune, shorties, street tires. Sold

01-22-2013, 11:29 AM	#15
Poleposition ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Drives: very well Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NY Posts: 932 iTrader: (0)	Nice Jim! __________________ 20135 21" DPE Super Concave, Meisterschaft GTC w/LXR midpipes, BMC filters, Charcoal delete, H&R springs, IND cosmetic pkg, M-Performance Spoiler, Wrapped roof, Hardwired V1, Coded 2013 X6 50i MSport 2008 SmartCar - 2012 Wrangler Unlimited

02-05-2013, 02:11 PM	#17
Patrick66 New Member Drives: 2013 x5m Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Stuttgart, Germany Posts: 5 iTrader: (0)	Winter tires I'm stationed in Germany and have Scorpians on my X5M. Great tires. No traction or handling problems at all.

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