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      04-28-2010, 08:21 AM   #1
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Ethenol and "Reduced Power"

For what it's worth, and just my opinion. I own an 09 3.5 X6 with about 11k miles on it. I burn Shell 93 Octane exclusively when in my home town and NEVER have any problems. As you all know the federal government mandates gasoline have 10% Ethanol in it, all oil companies are required to fulfill this law. However, I've had the car on two road trips and both times when I left my area and went near large cities I had several "Engine Malfunction" or "Reduced Power" or limp mode occurrences after buying fuels in that area. Restarts always clear the problem.I discussed Ethanol with my local Shell dealer and he stated that some gas station dealers are cheating and buying fuel with higher percentages of Ethanol in it. He cited one dealer he knew of that was caught with 22% Ethanol in his gasoline. Also in my state, if I recall properly, gas stations near larger cities are required by law to have higher percentages of Ethanol for environmental reasons, I think it's 15%. Some claim Ethanol does not burn hot enough and is causing the problem with the turbo chargers thus the "Engine Malfunctions". If I recall this problem may have been discussed at length. However, it seems like more of us are seeing the problem and I'm starting to think it's the gasoline more than the cars.
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      04-28-2010, 08:27 AM   #2
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For what it's worth, and just my opinion. I own an 09 3.5 X6 with about 11k miles on it. I burn Shell 93 Octane exclusively when in my home town and NEVER have any problems. As you all know the federal government mandates gasoline have 10% Ethanol in it, all oil companies are required to fulfill this law. However, I've had the car on two road trips and both times when I left my area and went near large cities I had several "Engine Malfunction" or "Reduced Power" or limp mode occurrences after buying fuels in that area. Restarts always clear the problem.I discussed Ethanol with my local Shell dealer and he stated that some gas station dealers are cheating and buying fuel with higher percentages of Ethanol in it. He cited one dealer he knew of that was caught with 22% Ethanol in his gasoline. Also in my state, if I recall properly, gas stations near larger cities are required by law to have higher percentages of Ethanol for environmental reasons, I think it's 15%. Some claim Ethanol does not burn hot enough and is causing the problem with the turbo chargers thus the "Engine Malfunctions". If I recall this problem may have been discussed at length. However, it seems like more of us are seeing the problem and I'm starting to think it's the gasoline more than the cars.
ALL oil companies ARE NOT required to have 10% Ethanol. I use BP
93 Octane and have had NO problems.
Sounds like you have been listening to some Liberal government BS.
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      04-28-2010, 10:09 AM   #3
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Don,
Perhaps you are correct. Maybe it's a state law rather than federal. Still, the question remains the same.
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      04-28-2010, 05:46 PM   #4
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Here goes the stupid question from me, how to prevent this?? how to find out amount of ethanol in 93??
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Ethanol content has to be posted on the pump in ALL STATES if contained in the product being pumped.
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      04-28-2010, 06:30 PM   #6
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Ethanol content has to be posted on the pump in ALL STATES if contained in the product being pumped.
NY barely cares about those rules, money is the power here, i dont trust those labels on gas stations
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