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      11-27-2010, 03:38 PM   #1
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Put in an order today

I put in a order for a 2011 X5 35d today!

Alpine White
Cinnamon brown leather
Dark bamboo
Premium Package
Technology Package
Heated Front Seats
Roof Rack
Spare Tire

Now the long wait begins!

I'm pretty happy with the deal I got.

MSRP $59625
Negotiated Discount -$4150
Doc Fee $599 (includes MACO and Training)
Eco Credit -$3500
Holiday Cash -$2500
Tag $18
Lemon Law $3

There is also the $1800 diesel tax credit.

The negotiated discount should come in at about $350 over invoice.

I will definitely post pictures when she comes in!

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I put in a order for a 2011 X5 35d today!

Alpine White
Cinnamon brown leather
Dark bamboo
Premium Package
Technology Package
Heated Front Seats
Roof Rack
Spare Tire

Now the long wait begins!

I'm pretty happy with the deal I got.

MSRP $59625
Negotiated Discount -$4150
Doc Fee $599 (includes MACO and Training)
Eco Credit -$3500
Holiday Cash -$2500
Tag $18
Lemon Law $3

There is also the $1800 diesel tax credit.

The negotiated discount should come in at about $350 over invoince.

I will definitely post pictures when she comes in!
Congrats!! Did you get a ETA on when you might get your X5 35d?
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      11-27-2010, 04:05 PM   #3
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Congrats!! Did you get a ETA on when you might get your X5 35d?
Thanks! Dealer said that they're going to modify one of their current in car orders. He said it should take 4 weeks. 6 weeks at worst.
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      11-28-2010, 04:08 PM   #4
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I put in a order for a 2011 X5 35d today!

Alpine White
Cinnamon brown leather
Dark bamboo
Premium Package
Technology Package
Heated Front Seats
Roof Rack
Spare Tire

Now the long wait begins!

I'm pretty happy with the deal I got.

MSRP $59625
Negotiated Discount -$4150
Doc Fee $599 (includes MACO and Training)
Eco Credit -$3500
Holiday Cash -$2500
Tag $18
Lemon Law $3

There is also the $1800 diesel tax credit.

The negotiated discount should come in at about $350 over invoice.

I will definitely post pictures when she comes in!
Wow, so you're getting $4150 off MSRP, in addition to the eco credit, holiday cash, and diesel credit? My 35i sport is on order for delivery by approx. 12/10 and I need to remember these figures when negotiating on mine. You got a deal!
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      11-29-2010, 10:45 AM   #6
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Wow, so you're getting $4150 off MSRP, in addition to the eco credit, holiday cash, and diesel credit? My 35i sport is on order for delivery by approx. 12/10 and I need to remember these figures when negotiating on mine. You got a deal!
Yeah I did. Funny thing was that I had two dealers giving me the same offer.

Buying a car on a rainy day at the end of the month does wonders for dealing.
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Got an update from the dealer. It is a week 50 production date.

So hopefully we'll get it before the end of the Dec!
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Yeah I did. Funny thing was that I had two dealers giving me the same offer.

Buying a car on a rainy day at the end of the month does wonders for dealing.
I'm still amazed because you ordered the car and didn't buy one off the lot.

I wonder if I should go ahead and negotiate a deal on my X5 before it gets here on 12/10? Would probably be easier to deal without the car sitting there on the lot in the dealer's corner...
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I'm still amazed because you ordered the car and didn't buy one off the lot.

I wonder if I should go ahead and negotiate a deal on my X5 before it gets here on 12/10? Would probably be easier to deal without the car sitting there on the lot in the dealer's corner...
Seriously - you ordered a car without making a deal? They so have you over a barrel when it shows up - definitely negotiate asap, before ordering would have been preferable, but do it now and tell them to cancel the order if they won't go your way.

A decent deal is Invoice + $500 +Maco/training + delivery - any credits, holiday cash eco credit etc. Anything less than that is really good, west coast guys seem to be more like invoice + 1000, but most of us on the east coast can get invoice + 500.
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They so have you over a barrel when it shows up - definitely negotiate asap, before ordering would have been preferable, but do it now and tell them to cancel the order if they won't go your way.

A decent deal is Invoice + $500 +Maco/training + delivery - any credits, holiday cash eco credit etc. Anything less than that is really good, west coast guys seem to be more like invoice + 1000, but most of us on the east coast can get invoice + 500.
I mostly agree with you, but technically he isn't on the hook for anything until he takes delivery. Nevertheless, I would think you lose some leverage when the vehicle - just like you wanted it - is sitting there in front of you.

RKB has the deal right. You should understand what credits you will qualify for in advance and leave them out of the negotiation until the very end.
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      11-29-2010, 07:02 PM   #11
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I'm still amazed because you ordered the car and didn't buy one off the lot.

I wonder if I should go ahead and negotiate a deal on my X5 before it gets here on 12/10? Would probably be easier to deal without the car sitting there on the lot in the dealer's corner...
What's the deal you were offered? List all that's ordered on the car and we could try to see what you can shoot for when you negotiate (albeit after you placed an order).
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What's the deal you were offered? List all that's ordered on the car and we could try to see what you can shoot for when you negotiate (albeit after you placed an order).
Thanks for the advice guys. Ok, my car (MSRP $66,475):

35i sport
Space Gray
Black perf leather
Bamboo
Active ventilated seats
Multicontour seats
Premium hifi
Sat. radio
Tech
Convenience
Comfort access
Heated front seats
Running boards
Space saver spare
Smartphone int.

I've bought another car from this sales manager, and my parents have bought a couple recently as well, so I've got a good relationship with him. I mentioned the $2500 holiday cash and he kinda poopoo'ed it, saying he wasn't sure if that was actual $2500 off the negotiated price of the car. I told him BS. I think he'll work with me a little, but I'm going to have to drop the hammer tomorrow.

I'm going to be trading in an '07 Yukon that is worth a bit more than payoff, so they shouldn't be able to use that to charge more for the X5; I won't be mentioning trade-in until I've negotiated a price on the car I can live with. I could tell him that I might have to go with an '11 Yukon due to the lower price unless he can come down to a good number.

Any add'l advice you can give between now and tomorrow afternoon would be greatly appreciated, guys! I'm a good negotiator but have never been at this level of car before. Oh, and sorry for hijacking this thread!
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I think the invoice price on my car will be $61,465, so it seems to me I should negotiate a sales price of around $62,000. Then have them take the $2500 holiday discount off and add training and destination charges to it for a total of $60,575 out the door.

Thoughts?
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I think the invoice price on my car will be $61,465, so it seems to me I should negotiate a sales price of around $62,000. Then have them take the $2500 holiday discount off and add training and destination charges to it for a total of $60,575 out the door.

Thoughts?
I think you didn't factor in the ~$500 increase for the post Oct 2011 changes. I would aim for $62,500 + tax + doc fees (traning MACO etc) + tag + title -$2500.
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      11-30-2010, 06:55 AM   #15
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I think you didn't factor in the ~$500 increase for the post Oct 2011 changes. I would aim for $62,500 + tax + doc fees (traning MACO etc) + tag + title -$2500.
Gotcha; thanks for the tip. I wonder if I could come to an agreement on vehicle price and then get them to throw in the titanium grilles, roof rack base support rails and roof luggage rack to get the deal done. I'm going to go negotiate this afternoon.
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I don't think they'll "throw" in roof racks if you didn't order it with it. I believe it's ~$1k to retrofit the $100 factory option.
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I don't think they'll "throw" in roof racks if you didn't order it with it. I believe it's ~$1k to retrofit the $100 factory option.
The 35i Sport comes with the factory roof rails. I want them to throw in the accessory Base Support rails and Luggage Rack:

Rails:
http://accessories.bmwusa.com/ItemVi...productId=3029

Rack:
http://accessories.bmwusa.com/ItemVi...&productId=322

They've always thrown in the rubber floor mats for me as well as a few other odds and ends, but I've already ordered a set of WeatherTech Digital Fit mats and could really use this OEM roof rack system (coming from a vehicle the size of a Yukon).
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The 35i Sport comes with the factory roof rails. I want them to throw in the accessory Base Support rails and Luggage Rack:

Rails:
http://accessories.bmwusa.com/ItemVi...productId=3029

Rack:
http://accessories.bmwusa.com/ItemVi...&productId=322

They've always thrown in the rubber floor mats for me as well as a few other odds and ends, but I've already ordered a set of WeatherTech Digital Fit mats and could really use this OEM roof rack system (coming from a vehicle the size of a Yukon).
My mistake then!
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My CA just told me today he thinks the Holiday credit will not be applicable!! HAHA... what a joker he is! He said the rates for my lease were locked in for Oct rates and that when the Holiday credit came out , the MF rates and the depreciation changed?? I told him that was funny, as I ordered my car in NOVEMBER! like the same day the credit was announced! Anyone have MF and DEP rates for cars ordered in NOV with the holiday credit and eco credit? 2011 x5 3.5D Thanks!
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OK, I sat down to negotiate with my sales rep before lunch and basically told him the deal's off and to cancel the car unless he can do better (much better).

He offered the $2500 holiday credit and no other discounts whatsoever. I told him that I know what X5's are selling for over invoice across the country and that he's going to have to do a lot better to sell me a car. He said that X5's are sought after in Mississippi and that they don't get discounted here; he's got three on the lot he's had for a couple of months. I told him that I know better and said he's going to have to sharpen his pencil if we're going to make a deal.

From what I've read on this forum, I shouldn't pay any more than $1k over invoice plus MACO/training fees, destination charge, tax/tag/title.

Any advice on how to squeeze him from this point on? Or should I just give him my number and hold firm until he gives?
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So what are the numbers that he came back with prior to all incentives?
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I mostly agree with you, but technically he isn't on the hook for anything until he takes delivery. Nevertheless, I would think you lose some leverage when the vehicle - just like you wanted it - is sitting there in front of you.

RKB has the deal right. You should understand what credits you will qualify for in advance and leave them out of the negotiation until the very end.
I don't think the dealer is either. Lot's of horror stories out there.

The OP posted a great deal, but it is not a done deal until the papers are signed and he drives off. I bet they made a mistake or two with all the discounts and some will come off for sure.

Also the ECO credit expires Dec 31. Unless you get it in writing, no orders received after Dec 31 will be eligible for the credit.
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