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01-09-2018, 07:37 AM | #1 | |
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Fisker solid-state battery promises 500-mile range, 1-minute charging
I don't usually start threads in response to automotive news stories, but given all the debate over EV that has heated up on this forum in the past year (as it has across the internet) this one sounded particularly apropos. This is especially true since range anxiety seems to be one of the bigger barriers to widespread EV adoption.
You might be quick to point out that cost is another big barrier to EV sales, and Fisker's new vehicle, the EMotion, which won't even use this type of battery initially, does nothing to address that issue (it's MSRP will be well over $100k). I agree this is true, however, the costs are likely to come down throughout the 2020s so that, by the end of that decade (if not sooner), tech like this can find its way into the Chevy Bolts and Nissan Leafs of the world. http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...inute-charging Quote:
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Fisker "promises" ss battery which will allegedly deliver...
Tired of seeing promises advertised as ability. It's like Hyundai Horsepower.
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Its amazing how prices come down so quickly. This time last year, I was wanting to upgrade to LED lights in my house. But $18 per light seemed prohibitive. Now (a year later) I can get 3 of those lights for $9, same price as flourescent. Hopefully the battery issue will play out the same way.
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Elon is just crazy enough to pull it off most of the time, but Fisker is just crazy IMO.
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No doubt there are plenty of empty promises being passed around in the areas of electric and autonomous vehicles. Obviously not everything is going to come to market when its being promoted, not everything is going to be viable in the way its being made out to, and sometimes the impact of technologies is exaggerated and overstated. As I've noted before, a lot of smart people are working on these things because the market is potentially huge, and that means there is a bunch of money to be made. The nice thing about a free market economy is that if you truly believe you are smarter than that critical mass of people - scientists, investors, politicians, whoever it is you want to compete with - you can put your money where your mouth is and bet against them. |
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Solid state batteries are the next paradigm shift in battery technology, as it has none of the drawbacks of liquid based electrolytes and capacity magnitudes higher/unmatched by liquid based electrolytes. The problem is, again, economy of scale. Solid state batteries cost the same to produce no matter how many you make at the same time, and to make a battery with enough cells to run a car, right now you're looking at 99% of a $100,000 car's cost to produce being invested in the battery for a solid state. It's far more likely that nanowire Li-ION batteries gain wide acceptance in the next 5-10 years as economy of scale catch up and manufacturing processes mature, then in about 20-25 years for solid state batteries to start trickling in to replace. Again, economy of scale and manufacturing processes to mature. But as nanowire Li-ION batteries mature, you'll start seeing EVs that weigh same or less than today's ICE based vehicles because the same amount of punch in a battery can now be contained in a package 1/5th the size of today's battery. By the time solid state batteries mature you may see power plants the size of today's lead-acid battery drive a car for 500 miles. But this is all "The Jetsons" type dream scenario. ICE has dominated in the past 100 years not because of superior performance and engineering, but because of matured method to deliver said "fuel" to the end user. Innovations to drive battery technology won't have the same drive (no pun intended) if the infrastructure to deliver electrons isn't there.
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Consider the source. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisker_Inc.
Henrik Fisker sells stock in the companies he starts, not automobiles. Then the companies fail. A few cars get delivered. Everyone takes a bath. Except Fisker. Fisker is a conman who used to be a talented designer. I don't believe a word he says. The old saying is that extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Fisker's claims require more than that.
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I need one of these in my cell phone. Hopefully this will address batterygate with 5 second charge times and twice the capacity, is there any info on when or if these batteries wear out over time?
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Too bad the charge lead will be too heavy to lift.
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