Still want an EV?

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by murderspice

I don’t know what that has to do with horses.

Obviously. That's my point.

[murderspice]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Obviously. That's my point.

That makes you the horse guy in my example.

Introspect more.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by murderspice

That makes you the horse guy in my example.

Introspect more.

Nah, in 1902? I'd take an automobile and tractor all day over horses. No question.

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by crAbb

Yes sir!

Tesla honesty, in EV circles that "Powered by Coal" could get you a beat down or at least what qualifies as a beat down by a bunch of soy boys.

[Car-Addicted]

Scotty Kilmer is Killing it again

GM Just Announced Their Leaving America and Firing Their Workers

Mary Barra is destroying GM on stupid move at a time.

Tesla Giga Press

The future is disposable EV's with extremely high insurance because they are not repairable.

[Car-Addicted]

This should make you think about the recycling issues with LiPo batteries
Massive fire at Kilwinning battery recycling plant as explosions heard for miles

Firefighters battle battery recycling plant blaze for second night
Two crews and one aerial appliance remain at the Fenix Battery Recycling on Byrehill Place in Kilwinning after being called to the area on Monday night.
Hundreds of residents were forced to leave their homes after the surrounding area was evacuated as flames engulfed the recycling centre and firefighters battled the blaze through the night.

[Condorll]

Originally Posted by crAbb

Yes sir!

Now that's calling it right!

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by Weather Man

Well, they run buy one get one free EV sales in Chyna, why not the EU?

Do you mean also double range anxiety

[Car-Addicted]

Small portion of drivers burn up one-third of America's gasoline — and some states are incentivizing them to switch to EVs
Coltura, an environmental nonprofit based in Seattle, found that the top 10% of motorists — meaning those who drive an average of about 40,200 miles a year — use about one-third of the gas used for transportation in the U.S.
California State Assembly member Phil Ting, who has introduced multiple bills aimed at creating incentives for low- and middle-income long-distance drivers to switch to EVs, said, "We're at a point where we need to start targeting our electric vehicle policies toward the people who are harder to reach."
Passing legislation to help high-mileage drivers find their way into an EV would provide many benefits. For all, it would go a long way toward slowing down the warming of the planet, meaning fewer extreme weather events that wreak havoc on communities.
https://www.thecooldown.com/green-bu...lity-colutura/

Once again showing democrats are not good at basic math or common sense.
Just how do you get to 40,000 miles a year at 300 miles a charge? I spend many years in the 40,000 plus club as a manufactures representative and I can tell you the last thing a road warrior is going to screw with is a EV.

"fewer extreme weather events" What a moron! go ahead and prove that you green idiot.

[Car-Addicted]

How Oil Cooling Can Make EVs Even More Efficient
Like internal combustion engines, electric motors are designed to operate in a certain temperature range. There may be significant temperature variation in the different components, but the windings' temperature should be between 100°C and 150°C (212°F–302°F). As temperature increases, so does resistance in the windings. Thermal expansion can further decrease efficiency by modifying tolerances inside the motor, causing even higher temps and eventually permanent damage.
The kind of oil cooling Tovar is talking about for electric motors is similar to what we see on high-performance internal combustion engines. The oil can be circulated inside the motor through journals, and sprayed on components where journals aren’t practical.
Obi_Wan_GREENobi will be furious I’m supporting the use of fossil-fuel-derived fluids in EVs. Meanwhile, Darth_V8er is going to stroke his lightsaber as he teases the tree-huggin hypocrites still needing oil for their EVs.
https://www.thedrive.com/news/how-oi...more-efficient

Fun fact:
A wind turbine consumes how much hydraulic oil?
For lubrication, each wind turbine requires 80 gallons of oil, which is not vegetable oil but a PAO synthetic oil based on crude 12,000 gallons. That oil must be replaced once a year.

[Weather Man]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Small portion of drivers burn up one-third of America's gasoline — and some states are incentivizing them to switch to EVs
Coltura, an environmental nonprofit based in Seattle, found that the top 10% of motorists — meaning those who drive an average of about 40,200 miles a year — use about one-third of the gas used for transportation in the U.S.
California State Assembly member Phil Ting, who has introduced multiple bills aimed at creating incentives for low- and middle-income long-distance drivers to switch to EVs, said, "We're at a point where we need to start targeting our electric vehicle policies toward the people who are harder to reach."
Passing legislation to help high-mileage drivers find their way into an EV would provide many benefits. For all, it would go a long way toward slowing down the warming of the planet, meaning fewer extreme weather events that wreak havoc on communities.
https://www.thecooldown.com/green-bu...lity-colutura/

Once again showing democrats are not good at basic math or common sense.
Just how do you get to 40,000 miles a year at 300 miles a charge? I spend many years in the 40,000 plus club as a manufactures representative and I can tell you the last thing a road warrior is going to screw with is a EV.

"fewer extreme weather events" What a moron! go ahead and prove that you green idiot.

Because they want to spend even more of their life stting in their car. Does anyone in CA even think?

[Weather Man]

Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) announced layoffs of more than 10% of its global workforce in an email sent across the company from CEO Elon Musk.

[Car-Addicted]

German Minister Threatens To Ban Weekend Driving Over Climate Law
April 13, 2024
Volker Wissing, Germany’s transport minister, has argued that if amendments to the country’s climate laws are not brought in soon, he could be required to impose Draconian measures, such as a driving ban on weekends.
He added that, without an amendment, the transport ministry would have to introduce “restrictive measures that are difficult to communicate to the population, such as comprehensive and indefinite driving bans on Saturdays and Sundays.”
In March, it was revealed that the transportation industry had failed to meet its legally binding emissions targets for 2023, reports The Local. Under law, Germany is bound to cut its emissions by 65 percent between 1990 and 2030, while meeting annual emissions targets.
Greenpeace also objected to Wissing’s rhetoric, claiming that he was turning his ministry’s failure to reduce emissions into political pressure.
https://www.carscoops.com/2024/04/ge...arent-relaxed/

In a totally unrelated story:
EV Sales Plunge 55% In Germany As Incentives Dry Up
Germany previously provided tax incentives to citizens purchasing electric vehicles. However, in December, the nation’s government abruptly decided to end the incentive program, and in the aftermath EV sales have cratered.
Compared to December 2023, sales of new electric vehicles were down 54.9 percent, while sales of plug-in hybrids were down 19.6 percent in the first month of 2024. On the other hand, the markets for vehicles with internal combustion engines were up more than 9 percent — +9.1 percent for gas, +9.5 percent for diesel.
https://www.carscoops.com/2024/02/ev...ncentives-end/

Looks like you have to pay people to buy EV's in Germany too.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Small portion of drivers burn up one-third of America's gasoline — and some states are incentivizing them to switch to EVs
Coltura, an environmental nonprofit based in Seattle, found that the top 10% of motorists — meaning those who drive an average of about 40,200 miles a year — use about one-third of the gas used for transportation in the U.S.
California State Assembly member Phil Ting, who has introduced multiple bills aimed at creating incentives for low- and middle-income long-distance drivers to switch to EVs, said, "We're at a point where we need to start targeting our electric vehicle policies toward the people who are harder to reach."
Passing legislation to help high-mileage drivers find their way into an EV would provide many benefits. For all, it would go a long way toward slowing down the warming of the planet, meaning fewer extreme weather events that wreak havoc on communities.
https://www.thecooldown.com/green-bu...lity-colutura/

Once again showing democrats are not good at basic math or common sense.
Just how do you get to 40,000 miles a year at 300 miles a charge? I spend many years in the 40,000 plus club as a manufactures representative and I can tell you the last thing a road warrior is going to screw with is a EV.

"fewer extreme weather events" What a moron! go ahead and prove that you green idiot.

For 14 years I was one of those 10-percenters. I looked in to EV starting in 2013. And your point is correct, even now it is difficult to find an EV with the daily range for a 175 - 200 mile commute on a single overnight charge fuel recovery. Add in winter range and good luck. EV do not make good long-distance commuters.

[Weather Man]

[QUOTE=Car-Addicted;31073950]German Minister Threatens To Ban Weekend Driving Over Climate Law
April 13, 2024
Volker Wissing, Germany’s transport minister, has argued that if amendments to the country’s climate laws are not brought in soon, he could be required to impose Draconian measures, such as a driving ban on weekends.
He added that, without an amendment, the transport ministry would have to introduce “restrictive measures that are difficult to communicate to the population, such as comprehensive and indefinite driving bans on Saturdays and Sundays.”
In March, it was revealed that the transportation industry had failed to meet its legally binding emissions targets for 2023, reports The Local. Under law, Germany is bound to cut its emissions by 65 percent between 1990 and 2030, while meeting annual emissions targets.
Greenpeace also objected to Wissing’s rhetoric, claiming that he was turning his ministry’s failure to reduce emissions into political pressure.

How many people complain that pointing out the Green Insanity means you wear a tinfoil hat. The Green Insanity is not shy about its agenda, people just don't believe until shit like this happens in real time.

[Car-Addicted]

Happy TAX Day.

It's also appreciate all your tax payers that funded your EV rebate day.

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Small portion of drivers burn up one-third of America's gasoline — and some states are incentivizing them to switch to EVs
Coltura, an environmental nonprofit based in Seattle, found that the top 10% of motorists — meaning those who drive an average of about 40,200 miles a year — use about one-third of the gas used for transportation in the U.S.
California State Assembly member Phil Ting, who has introduced multiple bills aimed at creating incentives for low- and middle-income long-distance drivers to switch to EVs, said, "We're at a point where we need to start targeting our electric vehicle policies toward the people who are harder to reach."
Passing legislation to help high-mileage drivers find their way into an EV would provide many benefits. For all, it would go a long way toward slowing down the warming of the planet, meaning fewer extreme weather events that wreak havoc on communities.
https://www.thecooldown.com/green-bu...lity-colutura/

Once again showing democrats are not good at basic math or common sense.
Just how do you get to 40,000 miles a year at 300 miles a charge? I spend many years in the 40,000 plus club as a manufactures representative and I can tell you the last thing a road warrior is going to screw with is a EV.

"fewer extreme weather events" What a moron! go ahead and prove that you green idiot.

They know it well. Easier said than done. They come up with new green plan every week just to prove they are smart.

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by Weather Man

Because they want to spend even more of their life stting in their car. Does anyone in CA even think?

Get a life The last thing I want to do is sitting in the car and wait for the car to charge up. Oh well, this is me, I want to live my life to the fullest. Not living a life to the foolish

[murderspice]

Oats never catch fire!

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

There's so much you don't know.

Someone obviously has never worked on a farm.

Not too many things more flammable than grain dust.

[Equilibrandt]

I've never set foot in this thread before today, but it's incredibly hilarious to me that y'all sit here, day-in, day-out, screaming bolded taglines and EV memes at one another, like my parents and grandparents on Facebook.

Echo chamber, much? Don't you have some kids on your lawn to harass?

Regardless of what side someone falls on the EV spectrum, they'd both eternally cringe at the likes of most of you. For a bunch of boomers who eternally berate kids for being "terminally online", y'all never cease to amaze me with the scale of your internet data usage.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Someone obviously has never worked on a farm.

Not too many things more flammable than grain dust.

I took my reply down, because I didn't want to get in another alternate-logic discussion. But this plays to my point. Horses are much more difficult to maintain than cars (even early 19th century cars). They have a very complex diet and can easily die from improper nutrition.

For someone to say oats don't catch fire just shows more ignorance. And hay, if stored with too much moisture content, can self-ignite just like a lithium battery , though hay is easier to extinguish with water and takes less to do so.

But I digress.