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      04-25-2015, 08:58 AM   #23
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I don't think even a stock GTR could touch it.. I will pass judgment on the NSX
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The turbo is heavier by I believe 150 lbs or so, has 50 less hp and is the epitome of a GT car.

Can't wait until the Porsche 988 or 960 comes out (mid engined halo car) which is going to leave Ferrari scratching their heads more than they are now.

I'm sure a bunch of them are jumping up and down in anger knowing the turbo S just beat its most hardcore track car.



You're indeed correct. Only thing beating a turbo S on the current market are hypercars.
Only fans, not owners. Owners (of any car) don't give a f what the others think - unless they bought the car for the "others" rather than themselves, in which case I think there could be quite a number.

PS: I'm a BMW fan - not owner - 'jumping up and down in anger' because BMW has not supercar. Get the point?
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Well for one, the 911 turbo s has a turbo, is lighter, so more torque. The 458 is a Ferrari, and is a revver.

Two different behaving cars.
The turbo is heavier by I believe 150 lbs or so, has 50 less hp and is the epitome of a GT car.

Can't wait until the Porsche 988 or 960 comes out (mid engined halo car) which is going to leave Ferrari scratching their heads more than they are now.

I'm sure a bunch of them are jumping up and down in anger knowing the turbo S just beat its most hardcore track car.

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I don't think even a stock GTR could touch it.. I will pass judgment on the NSX
You're indeed correct. Only thing beating a turbo S on the current market are hypercars.
You think Porsche is scratching it's head, jumping up and down.. Wondering how the Turbo S will completely destroy its own hardcore track cars?
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You think Porsche is scratching it's head, jumping up and down.. Wondering how the Turbo S will completely destroy its own hardcore track cars?


Destroys? Lmao. Ya, ok.

http://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/p...rbo_s_991.html

Despite the Turbo S putting around 130whp more there's no where it destroys the GT3.
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Destroys? Lmao. Ya, ok.

http://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/p...rbo_s_991.html

Despite the Turbo S putting around 130whp more there's no where it destroys the GT3.

Try again with same tires.
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You think Porsche is scratching it's head, jumping up and down.. Wondering how the Turbo S will completely destroy its own hardcore track cars?


Destroys? Lmao. Ya, ok.

http://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/p...rbo_s_991.html" rel="ugc" target="_blank">http://<a href="http://fastestlaps.c...s_991.html</a>" rel="ugc" target="_blank">http://<a href="http://<a href="http...1.html</a></a>

Despite the Turbo S putting around 130whp more there's no where it destroys the GT3.
Yes destroys, in every video review I've seen with the GT3 and Speciale.. The Speciale beats the GT3 around the track.. Turbo S posted a time better than the Speciale in this video.. I'll let you do the math.

And maybe you didn't finish watching the whole video to hear what he says at the end.
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You're indeed correct. Only thing beating a turbo S on the current market are hypercars.


Here's Autobild's laps of the Sachsenring. The new Z06 easily beat everything else. Wasn't even close.

1. Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Z06 1:30.47
2. Porsche 911 Turbo S (991) 1:32.51
3. Ferrari 458 Speciale 1:32.76
4. Lamborghini Huracan LP 610-4 1:32.84
5. Porsche 911 Turbo (991) 1:32.92
6. Porsche 911 GT3 1:32.97
7. McLaren 650 S 1:33.15
8. Porsche 911 Turbo S Cabriolet (991) 1:33.23
9. Mercedes SLS AMG Black Series 1:33.38
10. Porsche 911 GT2 RS 1:33.51

http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/sachsenring.html
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You're indeed correct. Only thing beating a turbo S on the current market are hypercars.


Here's Autobild's laps of the Sachsenring. The new Z06 easily beat everything else. Wasn't even close.

1. Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Z06 1:30.47
2. Porsche 911 Turbo S (991) 1:32.51
3. Ferrari 458 Speciale 1:32.76
4. Lamborghini Huracan LP 610-4 1:32.84
5. Porsche 911 Turbo (991) 1:32.92
6. Porsche 911 GT3 1:32.97
7. McLaren 650 S 1:33.15
8. Porsche 911 Turbo S Cabriolet (991) 1:33.23
9. Mercedes SLS AMG Black Series 1:33.38
10. Porsche 911 GT2 RS 1:33.51

http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/sachsenring.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://<a href="http://fastestlaps.c...nring.html</a>
New z06 is quite fast. It also has 100 more hp and 100 more tq than the turbo S. If the turbo S had as much hp it would easily be able to beat the z06. Just look at that top 10, half are 911s.
The speciale is barely faster than a regular GT3 despite 125 more hp. New RS is going to be killer seeing that it will likely be making well over 500 hp. My guess is it will make close to 500 rwhp.
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The best AWD will always beat the best RWD on the same tires and hp. Physics 101 4>2

Just like how the 918 is faster than the P1

However, if we compare the best RWD to a medicore AWD system of course the RWD will win. Those kinda comparos will be endless
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You're indeed correct. Only thing beating a turbo S on the current market are hypercars.


Here's Autobild's laps of the Sachsenring. The new Z06 easily beat everything else. Wasn't even close.

1. Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Z06 1:30.47
2. Porsche 911 Turbo S (991) 1:32.51
3. Ferrari 458 Speciale 1:32.76
4. Lamborghini Huracan LP 610-4 1:32.84
5. Porsche 911 Turbo (991) 1:32.92
6. Porsche 911 GT3 1:32.97
7. McLaren 650 S 1:33.15
8. Porsche 911 Turbo S Cabriolet (991) 1:33.23
9. Mercedes SLS AMG Black Series 1:33.38
10. Porsche 911 GT2 RS 1:33.51

http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/sachsenring.html" rel="ugc" target="_blank">http://<a href="http://fastestlaps.c...nring.html</a>" rel="ugc" target="_blank">http://<a href="http://<a href="http...g.html</a></a>" rel="ugc" target="_blank">http://<a href="http://<a href="http...ml</a></a></a>
New z06 is quite fast. It also has 100 more hp and 100 more tq than the turbo S. If the turbo S had as much hp it would easily be able to beat the z06. Just look at that top 10, half are 911s.
The speciale is barely faster than a regular GT3 despite 125 more hp. New RS is going to be killer seeing that it will likely be making well over 500 hp. My guess is it will make close to 500 rwhp.
He was disproving your comment about no car on the market except for hypercars being able to beat the Turbo S and now you bring up HP.. Hahahaha

And you call the Z06 "quite fast" I'm curious what you would call a Porsche if it defeated it's competition by the same margin.

Fact is, the Z06 absolutely embarrassed every car that's below it.
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He was disproving your comment about no car on the market except for hypercars being able to beat the Turbo S and now you bring up HP.. Hahahaha

And you call the Z06 "quite fast" I'm curious what you would call a Porsche if it defeated it's competition by the same margin.

Fact is, the Z06 absolutely embarrassed every car that's below it.
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The real question is, why hasn't revcrazy (wolfinwolfsclothing) sold his bmw yet and bough a Porsche already? Dude is the biggest Porsche homer I've seen.
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New z06 is quite fast. It also has 100 more hp and 100 more tq than the turbo S. If the turbo S had as much hp it would easily be able to beat the z06.
You do realize the Z06 costs 100k less? The Porshe should already have way more HP for the price but it doesn't.
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The best AWD will always beat the best RWD on the same tires and hp. Physics 101 4>2

Just like how the 918 is faster than the P1

However, if we compare the best RWD to a medicore AWD system of course the RWD will win. Those kinda comparos will be endless
Exactly, and that is why NSX II will (should) be the second fastest car after 918 Spyder. There is even a chance for it to be faster.
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The best AWD will always beat the best RWD on the same tires and hp. Physics 101 4>2

Just like how the 918 is faster than the P1

However, if we compare the best RWD to a medicore AWD system of course the RWD will win. Those kinda comparos will be endless
Exactly, and that is why NSX II will (should) be the second fastest car after 918 Spyder. There is even a chance for it to be faster.
The drugs are clearly better wherever you are.
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The drugs are clearly better wherever you are.
Prague, Czech Republic, till June.
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The drugs are clearly better wherever you are.
Prague, Czech Republic.
Oh yeah, beautiful place. I didn't realize that's where you were. Still got the Alfa? Any word on new rwd ones coming?
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If the turbo S had as much hp it would easily be able to beat the z06
If a Prius had enough power it would beat everything!
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Impressive!

Now imagine a 911 Turbo RS! That would be Über!
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Impressive!

Now imagine a 911 Turbo RS! That would be ber!
Hopefully Porsche will still make a GT2 and GT2RS.
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He was disproving your comment about no car on the market except for hypercars being able to beat the Turbo S and now you bring up HP.. Hahahaha

And you call the Z06 "quite fast" I'm curious what you would call a Porsche if it defeated it's competition by the same margin.

Fact is, the Z06 absolutely embarrassed every car that's below it.
What about when the Z06 breaks or over heats?
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