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      01-02-2010, 04:11 PM   #1
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Adding escort 9500ci radar detector - advice, how to ?

I decided to add the escort 9500ci radar detector to my X6 and after watching the installation videos and reading all I could, I am thinking of installing it myself. I can afford to have it done but want to do it myself as a way of making sure I can "still get my hands dirty". I have a few physical limitations (I can't bend like a monkey anymore but manage to get things done) but I was able to add aftermarket rear view camera to my x5, took me longer than most but it got done.

So the questions:
has anyone run wires through the firewall, if so did you use an existing grommet or drill new hole (trying to avoid drilling holes).

is there a trick to removing the panel above the passenger foot well to gain access to wires coming from engine compartment ? or better place ?

I was thinking of running power wire from fuse box in rear to front passenger side to power the control module or do you think I should mount control module in rear by fuse box.

finally if anyone has installed one of these, any tips or tricks.
like where did you put miniature controller and text display, again trying not to drill holes and use the adhesive back.

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I decided to add the escort 9500ci radar detector to my X6 and after watching the installation videos and reading all I could, I am thinking of installing it myself. I can afford to have it done but want to do it myself as a way of making sure I can "still get my hands dirty". I have a few physical limitations (I can't bend like a monkey anymore but manage to get things done) but I was able to add aftermarket rear view camera to my x5, took me longer than most but it got done.

So the questions:
has anyone run wires through the firewall, if so did you use an existing grommet or drill new hole (trying to avoid drilling holes).

is there a trick to removing the panel above the passenger foot well to gain access to wires coming from engine compartment ? or better place ?

I was thinking of running power wire from fuse box in rear to front passenger side to power the control module or do you think I should mount control module in rear by fuse box.

finally if anyone has installed one of these, any tips or tricks.
like where did you put miniature controller and text display, again trying not to drill holes and use the adhesive back.

Thanks
I am interested in doing this too. Please post some step by step instructions with pics preferably if you tackle this yourself.

I hope someone chimes in that has done this on either an X6 or X5. I am doubtful we will get any other X6 DIYers chiming in. Probably with these vehicles is that there are so few out there unlike the 3 series or 5 series!
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I am interested in doing this too. Please post some step by step instructions with pics preferably if you tackle this yourself.

I hope someone chimes in that has done this on either an X6 or X5. I am doubtful we will get any other X6 DIYers chiming in. Probably with these vehicles is that there are so few out there unlike the 3 series or 5 series!

Agree , found lots of dyi and videos for 3 and 5 but nothing for X6 .

So far after my research (reading and watching videos and going out and looking at my car) the biggest issue in access through firewall and how to get access to wires from inside passenger foot well.

I will take pics as I go along but this will take me a while, most likely several phases. I was hoping to get some time saving (as well as bending saving) tips here. I hope someone can answer some of the questions.
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(I can't bend like a monkey anymore but manage to get things done) but I was able to add aftermarket rear view camera to my x5, took me longer than most but it got done.
LMAO. I can relate. Those old bones crack like Pop Rock candy.
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LMAO. I can relate. Those old bones crack like Pop Rock candy.
Yes some days i sound like popcorn in the morning, I had surgery and they cut my stomach and some muscles, ever since it seems like the muscles are pissed off. That's life, need to post some more questions on the detector.
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questions for 9500ci owners

For those of you that have had a 9500ci I would like to get your thoughts on placement of things. My basic understanding is the miniature display shows you what type of gun has scanned you, the miniature controller adjusts the volume of the speaker as well as allowing you to "mark" a spot and the speaker either beeps or talks to you when it detects a scan.

So I would be curious where in an X6 you think these should go, keeping in mind I don't want to drill any holes in the dash.

I was thinking of putting the miniature display in the ash tray (don't smoke) and I can drill out side or back to run wire (since ash tray comes out i can replace it easily when I replace the car).

So far I was thinking I would put the miniature controller next to the drivers seat on the right side just below or on side of console so I could reach it.

It seems everyone puts the speaker in the drivers foot well, so was going with that.

So what do you think ?
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Funny, I am having mine installed Tuesday...I plan to put the display on the top of the rear view mirror...I had it setup that way in my M5. I found this worked well for line of site while driving. Make sure the radar sensor is as high up as possible, not in the grille, you will get a lot more detection distance...I plan on putting mine upe in front of the passenger visor. Haven't decided on the button yet...good luck!
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I had mine professionally installed.
the updte/interface & speaker are on the driver's side footwell/under the dash area so don't know if the installer found driver's side easier, as i've got the display above the mirror (wipe off the escort brand logo, so it's not too obvious) & the cntrl module within easy reach, the concealed alert indicator diode behind the center vent louvers.

Of course if u can install the display in the HUD area above the dash, so as to reflect up to the frt. windsheild, that would be superb!!

u need to place the cntrl module within reach to switch off the laser shifter, immediately, when u r hit with the 1st blast of a laser gun, then u slow down b 4 the cops hit u the 2nd time.
If u don't shut off ur shifter, for the cops to get a, hopefully, much lower reading, & u let the shifter work everytime u r being targeted, the cops will get wise that u've got a shifter working & pull u over anyways.
Especially if ur in states where shifters r illegal.

U'll need the concealed diode for night driving when ur not using/shut off the display module because drivers/police car passing in the next lane can see the blue glow.
Make sure the receivers r level, Otherwise they'll be pointing up in the sky @ 1000-1500 ft ahed.
When it comes to where best to mount the front rec'rs. u'll have to compromise between stealth & protection vs. parking damage & a clear unobstructed view ahead.
The rear shifter is easier ovr the licence plate, w/ just enuf rm. to open the hatch manually.

Hope this helps.

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I had mine professionally installed.
the updte/interface & speaker are on the driver's side so don't know if the installer found driver's side easier, as i've got the display above the mirror (wipe off the escort brand logo, so it's not too obvious) & the cntrl module within easy reach, the concealed alert indicator diode behind the center vent louvers.

Of course if u can install the display in the HUD area above the dash, so as to reflect up to the frt. windsheild, that would be superb!!

u need to place the cntrl module within reach to switch off the laser shifter, immediately, when u r hit with the 1st blast of a laser gun, then u slow down b 4 the cops hit u the 2nd time.
If u don't shut off ur shifter, for the cops to get a, hopefully, much lower reading, & u let the shifter work everytime u r being targeted, the cops will get wise that u've got a shifter working & pull u over anyways.
Especially if ur in states where shifters r illegal.

U'll need the concealed diode for night driving when ur not using/shut off the display module because drivers/police car passing in the next lane can see the blue glow.
Make sure the receivers r level, Otherwise they'll be pointing up in the sky @ 1000-1500 ft ahed.
When it comes to where best to mount the front rec'rs. u'll have to compromise between stealth & protection vs. parking damage & a clear unobstructed view ahead.
The rear rec'r is easier ovr the licence plate, w/ just enuf rm. to open the hatch manually.

Hope this helps.

This is great feedback. Thanks for posting all of the valuable tips!
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I had mine professionally installed.
the updte/interface & speaker are on the driver's side so don't know if the installer found driver's side easier, as i've got the display above the mirror (wipe off the escort brand logo, so it's not too obvious) & the cntrl module within easy reach, the concealed alert indicator diode behind the center vent louvers.

Of course if u can install the display in the HUD area above the dash, so as to reflect up to the frt. windsheild, that would be superb!!

u need to place the cntrl module within reach to switch off the laser shifter, immediately, when u r hit with the 1st blast of a laser gun, then u slow down b 4 the cops hit u the 2nd time.
If u don't shut off ur shifter, for the cops to get a, hopefully, much lower reading, & u let the shifter work everytime u r being targeted, the cops will get wise that u've got a shifter working & pull u over anyways.
Especially if ur in states where shifters r illegal.

U'll need the concealed diode for night driving when ur not using/shut off the display module because drivers/police car passing in the next lane can see the blue glow.
Make sure the receivers r level, Otherwise they'll be pointing up in the sky @ 1000-1500 ft ahed.
When it comes to where best to mount the front rec'rs. u'll have to compromise between stealth & protection vs. parking damage & a clear unobstructed view ahead.
The rear rec'r is easier ovr the licence plate, w/ just enuf rm. to open the hatch manually.

Hope this helps.

Good info, I wasn't as concerned about control placement because i thought the laser shifter/jammer shut it self off after being hit and responding. I will need to think about where to put control.

I have watched a couple of videos (veil guy,radar roy,trap hunter, escort install) and looked at a lot of pictures on various forums about were to place detector and laser jammers. I have seen in front of lower grill, behind lower grill for jammers and behind fog lights, behind top grill for detector.

There seems to be a couple of schools of thought in detector placement, in one bimmer install it was placed behind lower driver side fog light in another behind plastic grill sitting high.

What I have come away with is the detector should go high (some swear behind fog ok) and the jammers low. best performance for jammers is low and in front of grill, the cons to this is damage and it's not very stealth.
Much of what i read stated putting them behind grill is fine as long as it's plastic
(escort's installation video shows this: http://www.escortradar.com/videos/P9...nstallVidR.wmv)

So I will most likely install detector behind upper grill (below kidney) and jammers behind lower grill just below front parking sensors.

I am still wrestling with were to place interior controls as I would like them to be somewhat stealth (if cop walks up to car doesn't do much good to to have sensors hidden if controls are easily visible) but accessible.

Do you know where they installed the control module front or back ?
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I think it's the radars that shut off momentarily, laser shifters do not u have to tap the mute button 2X to shut shifter off. The instructions are hidden in the manual, i had to read it carefully to find it the second time. I'll check the pg # next time to let u know.
Apparently, laser is usually targeted @ the headlites for reflectivity, so close to the headlites is best.
Control unit can be below the start engine button& next to driver seat htr. buttons.
That way the steering wheel covers it when someone stands over the side window, but u can still reach it.
The control module wire is pushed thru the seam between the vent louvers & start button dash panels.
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I think it's the radars that shut off momentarily, laser shifters do not u have to tap the mute button 2X to shut shifter off. The instructions are hidden in the manual, i had to read it carefully to find it the second time. I'll check the pg # next time to let u know.
Apparently, laser is usually targeted @ the headlites for reflectivity, so close to the headlites is best.
Control unit can be below the start engine button& next to driver seat htr. buttons.
That way the steering wheel covers it when someone stands over the side window, but u can still reach it.
The control module wire is pushed thru the seam between the vent louvers & start button dash panels.

Thanks for all the info it helps, good point about steering blocking control, will check that out.
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I had mine professionally installed.
the updte/interface & speaker are on the driver's side so don't know if the installer found driver's side easier, as i've got the display above the mirror (wipe off the escort brand logo, so it's not too obvious) & the cntrl module within easy reach, the concealed alert indicator diode behind the center vent louvers.

Of course if u can install the display in the HUD area above the dash, so as to reflect up to the frt. windsheild, that would be superb!!

u need to place the cntrl module within reach to switch off the laser shifter, immediately, when u r hit with the 1st blast of a laser gun, then u slow down b 4 the cops hit u the 2nd time.
If u don't shut off ur shifter, for the cops to get a, hopefully, much lower reading, & u let the shifter work everytime u r being targeted, the cops will get wise that u've got a shifter working & pull u over anyways.
Especially if ur in states where shifters r illegal.

U'll need the concealed diode for night driving when ur not using/shut off the display module because drivers/police car passing in the next lane can see the blue glow.
Make sure the receivers r level, Otherwise they'll be pointing up in the sky @ 1000-1500 ft ahed.
When it comes to where best to mount the front rec'rs. u'll have to compromise between stealth & protection vs. parking damage & a clear unobstructed view ahead.
The rear rec'r is easier ovr the licence plate, w/ just enuf rm. to open the hatch manually.

Hope this helps.

Where did they put the laser shifters/jammers in the front ?

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Check page 7 of the op instr'n bk item #4.
Other websites may have tips on usage to avoid detection as some states may prohibit detector usage. That's why I recommend the diode behind an open center vent louver.
Front laz rc'r is centered behind the approx. 3" wide crosshatch open grill below the kidneys. shifters are left & right of it.

Have yet to be engaged by laser directly. but have experienced advance warning of Ka band way in advance of seeing Smokey citing someone going the opposite way.

A friend w/ the same unit in a carrera 4s was caught by Smokey because his receiver was not pointing straight fwd. 1/4 bubble off level can mean ur trying to detect aircraft over treetops @ approx. 1000yards.
At 100mph vehicle travels 49 yds/sec., u close 500 yds in 10 seconds.
Most Smokeys will not be setting up on the straight flat runs (unless they r there just for visual deterrence), but usually around blind corners @ much closer distances.
So if ur the point car within 300 yds u can be targeted multiple times !
I always let "decoys" run ahead of me around blind corners! so I can detect stray signals when they r targeted.
Thanks for reminding me to catch up on some reading to update my skills!

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Check page 7 of the op instr'n bk item #4.
Other websites may have tips on usage to avoid detection as some states may prohibit detector usage. That's why I recommend the diode behind an open center vent louver.
Front laz rc'r is centered behind the approx. 3" wide crosshatch open grill below the kidneys. shifters are left & right of it.

Have yet to be engaged by laser directly. but have experienced advance warning of Ka band way in advance of seeing Smokey citing someone going the opposite way.

A friend w/ the same unit in a carrera 4s was caught by Smokey because his receiver was not pointing straight fwd. 1/4 bubble off level can mean ur trying to detect aircraft over treetops @ approx. 1000yards.
At 100mph vehicle travels 49 yds/sec., u close 500 yds in 10 seconds.
Most Smokeys will not be setting up on the straight flat runs (unless they r there just for visual deterrence), but usually around blind corners @ much closer distances.
So if ur the point car within 300 yds u can be targeted multiple times !
I always let "decoys" run ahead of u around blind corners! so I can detect stray signals when they r targeted.
Thanks for reminding me to catch up on some reading to update my skills!

Ok I have checked many sites and there are lots of opinions where to put the detector and the jammers but most are 3 series install not X6. On most of the 3 series the jammers are mounted behind or on the front of lower grill (lots of opinions about "front or behind but escort install video shows behind grill on mustang). The detector location seems to be another one that draws lots of opinions.

I did find a 3 series install on the M3 board by pencilgeek that I am studying, he lives in the same area as I and drives the same highways and has real world experience after install.

could you post a picture of yours so I can get an idea of where exactly the units are placed?

Thanks.
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Still researching this and studying the components (doing hand fits). Doesn't seem like those that have installed are willing to share pictures, X6 is challenging install as to where to place jammers. Would be nice to see where some were installed and experiences.

Warning: avoid radardetector.net, moderator hostile to any product he doesn't approve of. not just me others also.
http://www.speedtraphunter.net/ and http://escortradarforum.com/forums/ very friendly.

I think I have the locations worked out, now I need to crawl around looking at front of car from underneath.

It's taken a while to sort through the various forums and separate fact from purist view on how it should be done and with what (some would basically have you mount everything on the hood to get maximum performance,aesthetics not a consideration) to real life experiences.
Lots of 3 series installs and those authors were the most helpful, didn't get one "X6 is not a real BMW".

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Fotos request

I dont know how to reduce my foto files for uploading here.
send me ur email address & i'll send fotos.
I remember that we had an intermittent system shut off problem & my installer had to recheck for broken wiring & eventually determined equipm't fault & swapped another receiver from another box.
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I had my install (Escort 9500 CI with Blinder M47 Jammers) completed by Audio Video Unlimited here in Surrey, very happy with the cleanliness of the install!
Main control:

Main display (green right led is Escort, right is Blinder)

Blinder jammer on right side (he made a custom bracket):

Escort front ride side in middle grill:

Rear jammers (another custom bracket):

Radar Unit (I wanted it as high as possible):


Haven't truly tested it yet...
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I had my install (Escort 9500 CI with Blinder M47 Jammers) completed by Audio Video Unlimited here in Surrey, very happy with the cleanliness of the install!


Haven't truly tested it yet...
You installed a Blinder M47 and Escort 9500? Don't they both do the same thing or is the Escort 9500 you have only a radar detector?
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I had my install (Escort 9500 CI with Blinder M47 Jammers) completed by Audio Video Unlimited here in Surrey, very happy with the cleanliness of the install!
Main control:

Main display (green right led is Escort, right is Blinder)

Blinder jammer on right side (he made a custom bracket):

Escort front ride side in middle grill:

Rear jammers (another custom bracket):

Radar Unit (I wanted it as high as possible):


Haven't truly tested it yet...
Thanks for posting the pics. So you added an additional 4 jammers and a second unit, I guess the LEO's must be very aggressive where you live.

In US the LEO's are trained to shoot the front plate first, if none then the headlights so your set up (not adding another unit but placement)is what I've come down to. For me the rear would not work as when they shoot from behind (not very often) they go for the rear plate.

I would be interested in how the "mark the spot" feature works out .
Nice install.

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Front rec'r & Shifters

There'r always compromises between stealth, protection from damage/theft & unobstructed performance. Each has his own reason(s).
here's the way they did mine.
Front units:
Green tape shows location of mounting screws for the supplied brackets of rec'r & left & right shifters.
1st foto, looking down, shows 2 receiver mounting screws on the right side of the foto, & 2 screws for the right/passenger side shifter on the left side of the foto.
2 nd foto shows all 3 sets of mtg. screws from oblique angle.
3 rd foto shows rec'r thru the grill mesh below the passenger side kidney vent openings.
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You installed a Blinder M47 and Escort 9500? Don't they both do the same thing or is the Escort 9500 you have only a radar detector?
Escort 9500ci is best detector on the market and it comes with ZR4 jammers (separate units). This is not the normal suction cups in the window unit. It is meant to be hidden , which is why I bought it.

After spending weeks in the radar forums I found that when it comes to the jammer part (everyone agrees the detector is best on market and wish escort sold it separately) there is considerable difference of opinion on the escort ZR4 jammers.

Seems folks that have them say they work fine others don't have them say they don't (although their opinions are usually based on experience with the ZR3, previous generation) The Blinder jammers have a very good reputation, you can go nuts with this if you want. A lot of the purist on the radar forums run 2 and 3 radar detector/jammers. I'm not willing to turn my car into radar central, just want simple edge.
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