what happened to the guy selling the eisenmann exhaust?

[upstate650]

He posted one for sale yesterday, I PM'd him, and he responded. Truied to respond this morning, and it says he is banned ad thread is deleted?

What happened?

[JVX6M]

Originally Posted by upstateX5M

He posted one for sale yesterday, I PM'd him, and he responded. Truied to respond this morning, and it says he is banned ad thread is deleted?

What happened?

He was a scam. The pics he posted were of ChiTownM's Eisenmann when he sold it here and on eBay! UNREAL

[upstate650]

No shit! Good thing someone caught it before they got burned!

[JVX6M]

Yeah there are some pretty good people on the forum here that definitely helped out with that one!

[denaliman]

Ya that deal screamed fraud as soon as I saw it and after a couple exchanges of emails it didn't add up. First he said it was an Akrapovic then an Eisenmann...ding ding. I did some sleuthing and found the same pics on ebay from a couple years back and posted them with a warning. Reported the post and the Moderators did the rest...Busted! I hope no one got taken. He's got an exhaust for sale on M3 e46 Fanatics as well posted under antonmag1. Boy was he pissed when I called him out as a scammer! Here I was ready to send him a post dated bank draft from my Nigerian account LOL! Most people on here are honest and trusting, but due diligence pays off. If someone won't let you put your own eyes on the item, wants a bank wire transfer, willing to ship anywhere included and seems to good to be true...RUN.

[bigred1100s]

denaliman saved my ass this morning. truth is had the guy asked me to do paypal last night i probably would have. But a red flag came up when I asked him to list the item on ebay and he said his account would not permit any sale under 2k. Thank God for forums. I mean to think i was even trying to prove my legitimacy to him. Jeezuz

[bigred1100s]

Originally Posted by denaliman

Ya that deal screamed fraud as soon as I saw it and after a couple exchanges of emails it didn't add up. First he said it was an Akrapovic then an Eisenmann...ding ding. I did some sleuthing and found the same pics on ebay from a couple years back and posted them with a warning. Reported the post and the Moderators did the rest...Busted! I hope no one got taken. He's got an exhaust for sale on M3 e46 Fanatics as well posted under antonmag1. Boy was he pissed when I called him out as a scammer! Here I was ready to send him a post dated bank draft from my Nigerian account LOL! Most people on here are honest and trusting, but due diligence pays off. If someone won't let you put your own eyes on the item, wants a bank wire transfer, willing to ship anywhere included and seems to good to be true...RUN.

wow

[reihani]

There are definitely good and bad people here. I paypal-ed a guy in NJ for $3000 for an eisenmann exhaust. He answered all my questions, provided pictures, his place of work, his full name, phone number, address. He had nothing to hide. And then there are guys like this. Good on you guys for catching him.

[P1]

Remember chaps, these scammers sit inside a hot and stinky computer café somewhere in Nigeria and have NOTHING but time on their hands. For them, to scam you out of $3K is like hitting the lottery here. And if it takes 6 months to build up some credibility on a forum, then so be it.

[Sylvan Lake V35]

Even if you did paypal him the money, as soon as you tell paypal you didn't get the correct item in the specified time if he can't prove he sent you the items they refund your money. The seller is very well protected with paypal. I have done hundreds of online transactions on various automotive forums with only minor issues but this forum I seem to have the most grief or 1/2 assed deals out of the 100s I can think of about 5-6 deals that were not satisfying and 3 are from the short time I have been on this forum. I have had several deals that went well but a few that people weren't forthcoming with issues. One was a set of rockers that had no support with them, one was a set of wheels the guy said were off an X5 and I even asked for the hub bore measurement which he outright lied about and and disappeared when I wanted to split the cost of boring them. The other didn't include the nuts required for the self levelling suspension rods when I asked about them he went off the deep end and started threatening me and was angry that I dared ask him for all of the parts I paid for and told me to go to the store and buy the nuts myself

Other forums require you post pictures of the item and include a hand written sign in the pictures with your screen name and date. Not to mention people use the trader rating system. I am not sure why this forum is so behind the times. It reminds me of automotive forums from 10 years ago.

[Draper]

Originally Posted by Sylvan Lake V35

Even if you did paypal him the money, as soon as you tell paypal you didn't get the correct item in the specified time if he can't prove he sent you the items they refund your money.

Just to add a bite more info here.

PayPal will protect you if you don't receive an item, but they will not help if you receive the incorrect item or something not as described (IE he sends you a Camry muffler instead of the Eisenmann muffler).

However, as long as you pay via PayPal with a credit card, your credit card company will protect you from pretty much every type of fraud imaginable...including items received but not as described.

[Boosteeddc]

I may be selling my eisenmann race soon if I can get the things sorted out on a new car and return my car back to stock. Keep me in mind and check back soon?

[bigred1100s]

Originally Posted by Boosteeddc

I may be selling my eisenmann race soon if I can get the things sorted out on a new car and return my car back to stock. Keep me in mind and check back soon?

I have catless down pipes, will the race version be too loud?

[bigred1100s]

Originally Posted by P1et

Remember chaps, these scammers sit inside a hot and stinky computer café somewhere in Nigeria and have NOTHING but time on their hands. For them, to scam you out of $3K is like hitting the lottery here. And if it takes 6 months to build up some credibility on a forum, then so be it.

Very good point. i think i'll just order new then

[Boosteeddc]

Originally Posted by bigred1100s

I have catless down pipes, will the race version be too loud?

I also have active catless downpipes. It sounds like a dream. But the cold start make me scared to continue living in my neighborhood

[Sylvan Lake V35]

Originally Posted by jzbm3

Just to add a bite more info here.

PayPal will protect you if you don't receive an item, but they will not help if you receive the incorrect item or something not as described (IE he sends you a Camry muffler instead of the Eisenmann muffler).

However, as long as you pay via PayPal with a credit card, your credit card company will protect you from pretty much every type of fraud imaginable...including items received but not as described.

You are incorrect, in your note to them when you pay you detail exactly what you are buying. If you do not get that paypal WILL 100% refund your money. The misinformation in this thread blows my mind. The one thing you did have correct is the fact you should always pay your paypal with a credit card it is another line of protection. Paypal heavily favours buyers in all cases.

Be sure you specify a Eisenmann exhaust for a 2010 BMW X5M and they send a Camry muffler you are protected....

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[Sylvan Lake V35]

Originally Posted by bigred1100s

I have catless down pipes, will the race version be too loud?

It will be very loud, I also have the race with catless pipes. The cold start sets off car alarms in my underground parkade at work. I don't find it bad at cruising speed on the hi way but any throttle input you make you will hear it, my wife won't talk to me on blue tooth when I am driving in the city she said it's very annoying it does sound good though and I personally don't mind it but if you are worried about loud it's likely not for you.

[Draper]

Originally Posted by Sylvan Lake V35

You are incorrect, in your note to them when you pay you detail exactly what you are buying. If you do not get that paypal WILL 100% refund your money. The misinformation in this thread blows my mind. The one thing you did have correct is the fact you should always pay your paypal with a credit card it is another line of protection. Paypal heavily favours buyers in all cases.

Well that policy is a little misleading, as it will only apply if PayPal is able to recover funds from the seller (IE the funds are still in their PayPal account, or a linked bank account).

If you're dealing with a true fraudster, he's likely well aware of those rules and will get the funds out as quick as possible.

Trust me, I've been in that situation before and ended up having to go back to my credit card company to file a chargeback. Now I make sure EVERY PayPal purchase goes on my credit card...just in case.

[bigred1100s]

Originally Posted by Sylvan Lake V35

It will be very loud, I also have the race with catless pipes. The cold start sets off car alarms in my underground parkade at work. I don't find it bad at cruising speed on the hi way but any throttle input you make you will hear it, my wife won't talk to me on blue tooth when I am driving in the city she said it's very annoying it does sound good though and I personally don't mind it but if you are worried about loud it's likely not for you.

Well its too late now. I guess i'll find out. But let me ask, on bluetooth are your windows down?

[Sylvan Lake V35]

Originally Posted by jzbm3

Well that policy is a little misleading, as it will only apply if PayPal is able to recover funds from the seller (IE the funds are still in their PayPal account, or a linked bank account).

If you're dealing with a true fraudster, he's likely well aware of those rules and will get the funds out as quick as possible.

Trust me, I've been in that situation before and ended up having to go back to my credit card company to file a chargeback. Now I make sure EVERY PayPal purchase goes on my credit card...just in case.

You are incorrect they will take the money out of the sellers paypal account and return it to you if it's in the account or not, if there is no funds in the paypal account you will have a negative paypal balance and they will send you to a collection agency if you don't pay it.
I had a buyer scam me (claimed he never got the item) and I had a zero balance it then after they returned his money my account showed a negative balance. I was scammed so I refused to pay the money back and they sent me to a collection agency and threatened to report it to the credit bureau. They will NOT take money out of any linked accounts that is illegal.

[Sylvan Lake V35]

Originally Posted by bigred1100s

Well its too late now. I guess i'll find out. But let me ask, on bluetooth are your windows down?

Nope windows closed, it's loud but like I said I like the sound it gives more of a sporty feel and less luxury.

If you want to PM me your phone number I can text you a couple of sound clips I have.

[bigred1100s]

I heard the race yesterday with catles down pipes and i must say i am very glad with my decision to go race. Even with race and no cats the x6M is still not as loud as my c63(which i loved). so race it is for me