x6 steering effort

cheaptrick · 09-12-2008, 05:08 PM

Been gone a while but back now, just wanted to post about steering effort. If you are ordering an x6 get the active steering. I did not and regret it. Just drove x-5 loaner for a a couple of days and I have to say the effort of turning the wheel was a lot easier on the x5. Could be the 19" wheels and smaller tires, but my x6 with 20" is a handful to turn the wheel at low speeds. Wife does not care for it at all. Asked the dealer if there was a way to raise the boost on the power steering pump and the answer was no. So if you don't want to wrestle with your car=Active steering all the way. Cheap

Deda · 09-12-2008, 05:22 PM

Good info,thanks!

akraptor · 09-12-2008, 10:08 PM

Do some arm curls at the gym. It works for many. Not for driving, especially. The modern cars (not payload trucks) are the least requiring strong arms. But do it anyway, . .it's always helpful in doing household manual labor.

branko · 09-13-2008, 05:59 AM

Having driven my X6 with Active Steering for about a month, my experience is that it works really well, feels very natural.
Drove my 530d last night after having left it for a couple of weeks and my first impression was that something was wrong with the steering, so yes, once you get used to it, you realize how nice it is... when you drive without one.

rockmed · 09-13-2008, 10:07 AM

On of the most important options to get for sure. Makes a hell of difference especially when you drive another car after the X6.

Deda · 09-13-2008, 10:31 AM

Damn,i must call my dealer,car is getting in production in few days,i hope i will be able to put active steering on!

cheaptrick · 09-13-2008, 02:40 PM

Did not need it on the 3 series but I think that it's madatory on x6. cheap

Deda · 09-13-2008, 03:17 PM

Yes,i agree with you...it is a big car with wery wide tyres.285 front!!

xDrive50i · 09-13-2008, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Deda

Yes,i agree with you...it is a big car with wery wide tyres.285 front!!

Are you getting 21" wheels or the 20" wheels?

20" wheels have 275 front 315 back... 21" wheels have 285 front and 325 back!

JOHNBMWM5 · 09-13-2008, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by xDrive50i

Are you getting 21" wheels or the 20" wheels?

20" wheels have 275 front 315 back... 21" wheels have 285 front and 325 back!

Not in the UK, 20" 285 fronts 315 rears

Deda · 09-14-2008, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by xDrive50i

Are you getting 21" wheels or the 20" wheels?

20" wheels have 275 front 315 back... 21" wheels have 285 front and 325 back!

Well,that is a long story...at firts place i have ordred 19 inches for winter and 21 for summer...but,my dealer has lost the dealership

,so i needed to go to general dealer,which didnot gave me same conditions as in the past..so now i am getting 20 iches 259,but i will buy 21 anyway and use them for summer.
259 set i will sell and buy 19 inches alloys with winter tyers.

Year's_End · 09-14-2008, 12:05 PM

I loves heavy steering.

rockmed · 09-14-2008, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bimmer Loyalist

I loves heavy steering.

Active Steering has nothing to do with the how heavy the steering is; it only influences the number of turns you need to rotate the steering wheel (steering ratio). For example, at low speeds in a normal car you may have to rotate the steering wheel 720 degrees to make a full U turn, with Active Steering you only need to rotate 360 degrees. At high speeds, it has the opposite effect, making changing lanes less jerky since slight movement in steering wheel won't turn the wheels as much a regular steering.

JOHNBMWM5 · 09-14-2008, 02:34 PM

I drove both "Active and none Active", I liked NONE active and ordered it, it made little diference to my driving style, the price is high though. I do not live in town though, if I did this may have swayed me.

rdk · 09-14-2008, 05:32 PM

I tried both and ordered without active steering. The active steering felt over boosted and did not feel natural.

Year's_End · 09-14-2008, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rockmed

Active Steering has nothing to do with the how heavy the steering is; it only influences the number of turns you need to rotate the steering wheel (steering ratio). For example, at low speeds in a normal car you may have to rotate the steering wheel 720 degrees to make a full U turn, with Active Steering you only need to rotate 360 degrees. At high speeds, it has the opposite effect, making changing lanes less jerky since slight movement in steering wheel won't turn the wheels as much a regular steering.

Well from my experience with BMW's, comparing a 645ci with AS (granted, it's older AS tech) against my 335i, the AS-equipped vehicle has MUCH lighter steering effort.

I know how AS works, lol.

cheaptrick · 09-15-2008, 09:52 AM

Thats my take too, active steering-much lighter effort, perhaps the electric motors that change the steering ratio also have the effect of lowering the effort. In any event in the real world the effort is apreciably lower. Cheap

Deda · 09-15-2008, 03:03 PM

Good news,dealer accepted my new order,so i am getting AS!

PeTo_H · 09-15-2008, 03:18 PM

Good for you, I hope you would like it a lot even though it needs some tome to get used to.

Deda · 09-15-2008, 04:06 PM

Well yes, i guess youre right...but that the thing about all good things,it is easy to get used to it!

09-12-2008, 05:08 PM	#1
cheaptrick cheap 7 Rep 116 Posts Drives: 335CIC & 35i X6 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: San Diego iTrader: (0)	x6 steering effort Been gone a while but back now, just wanted to post about steering effort. If you are ordering an x6 get the active steering. I did not and regret it. Just drove x-5 loaner for a a couple of days and I have to say the effort of turning the wheel was a lot easier on the x5. Could be the 19" wheels and smaller tires, but my x6 with 20" is a handful to turn the wheel at low speeds. Wife does not care for it at all. Asked the dealer if there was a way to raise the boost on the power steering pump and the answer was no. So if you don't want to wrestle with your car=Active steering all the way. Cheap __________________
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Deda Major General 563 Rep 7,034 Posts Drives: BMW M5 comp Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Croatia iTrader: (0)	Good info,thanks!
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akraptor Lieutenant 45 Rep 464 Posts Drives: 35 D Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Romania iTrader: (0)	Do some arm curls at the gym. It works for many. Not for driving, especially. The modern cars (not payload trucks) are the least requiring strong arms. But do it anyway, . .it's always helpful in doing household manual labor.
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09-13-2008, 05:59 AM	#4
branko Private First Class 9 Rep 165 Posts Drives: BMW 530d, X6 3.5d Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Europe iTrader: (0)	Having driven my X6 with Active Steering for about a month, my experience is that it works really well, feels very natural. Drove my 530d last night after having left it for a couple of weeks and my first impression was that something was wrong with the steering, so yes, once you get used to it, you realize how nice it is... when you drive without one.
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rockmed Private 14 Rep 71 Posts Drives: none Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: KSA iTrader: (0)	On of the most important options to get for sure. Makes a hell of difference especially when you drive another car after the X6.
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Deda Major General 563 Rep 7,034 Posts Drives: BMW M5 comp Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Croatia iTrader: (0)	Damn,i must call my dealer,car is getting in production in few days,i hope i will be able to put active steering on!
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cheaptrick cheap 7 Rep 116 Posts Drives: 335CIC & 35i X6 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: San Diego iTrader: (0)	Dede hope you can make it in time Did not need it on the 3 series but I think that it's madatory on x6. cheap __________________
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09-13-2008, 03:17 PM	#8
Deda Major General 563 Rep 7,034 Posts Drives: BMW M5 comp Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Croatia iTrader: (0)	Yes,i agree with you...it is a big car with wery wide tyres.285 front!!
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09-14-2008, 12:05 PM	#12
Year's_End Lieutenant General 1137 Rep 12,444 Posts Drives: 2020 Shelby GT350 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: FL iTrader: (0)	I loves heavy steering. __________________ Past: '08 E92 335i\|ZPP\|ZSP\|6AT Past: '15 Mustang GT\|401A\|PP\|6MT Current: '20 Shelby GT350\|6MT
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JOHNBMWM5 Live for today tomorrow never comes 1989 Rep 9,498 Posts Drives: 2022 LCI Marina Bay Blue/ Smok Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	I drove both "Active and none Active", I liked NONE active and ordered it, it made little diference to my driving style, the price is high though. I do not live in town though, if I did this may have swayed me.
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rdk New Member 10 Rep 29 Posts Drives: 09 X6 50i VR Blk Nappa Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Austin, Tx iTrader: (0)	I tried both and ordered without active steering. The active steering felt over boosted and did not feel natural.
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09-15-2008, 09:52 AM	#17
cheaptrick cheap 7 Rep 116 Posts Drives: 335CIC & 35i X6 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: San Diego iTrader: (0)	lighter effort Thats my take too, active steering-much lighter effort, perhaps the electric motors that change the steering ratio also have the effect of lowering the effort. In any event in the real world the effort is apreciably lower. Cheap __________________
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Deda Major General 563 Rep 7,034 Posts Drives: BMW M5 comp Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Croatia iTrader: (0)	Good news,dealer accepted my new order,so i am getting AS!
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PeTo_H Private 4 Rep 66 Posts Drives: '99 528iA, X6 35i on the way Join Date: May 2008 Location: Slovakia iTrader: (0)	Good for you, I hope you would like it a lot even though it needs some tome to get used to.
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Deda Major General 563 Rep 7,034 Posts Drives: BMW M5 comp Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Croatia iTrader: (0)	Well yes, i guess youre right...but that the thing about all good things,it is easy to get used to it!
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