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      12-26-2008, 12:18 AM   #23
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That's what they call character.
You have character when u can accept reality/difficulty,
The object of desire's character is it requires compromise(s) of those who seek to possess it, in xchange for pleasure it grants in return. Like a woman.
But he who pays have the right to complain.

Huh ?
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exactly
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Tailgate closing from inside

There should be an alarm if the tailgate is not securely closed( like seat belt reminder).
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      12-29-2008, 09:09 AM   #26
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i just took a video of the function i was referring to in my replies before


you can clearly see that pressing and holding the tailgate key will make it close ... and taking your finger off the button will stop it from going down any further






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      12-29-2008, 10:56 AM   #27
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I want this option, most likely one of those options only available outside US.
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      12-29-2008, 01:40 PM   #28
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i just took a video of the function i was referring to in my replies before


you can clearly see that pressing and holding the tailgate key will make it close ... and taking your finger off the button will stop it from going down any further






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thanxxxxxxxxx for the video it really helps me
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I think I have this option because it is mentioned in my papers where the options are mentioned it is called: Automatic Operation of Tailgate -!
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      12-29-2008, 04:07 PM   #30
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yes,you have it!
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      12-30-2008, 09:09 AM   #31
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i just took a video of the function i was referring to in my replies before


you can clearly see that pressing and holding the tailgate key will make it close ... and taking your finger off the button will stop it from going down any further






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Great video! Really helps to see how it should work. I wonder if we can have the alarm disabled and this enabled. Maybe some enterprising mechanic can sort through the codes...

Anybody in North America have a relationship with BMW mechanic who could investigate?

We know its now possible, its just a matter of getting it to work. I personally would be happy muting the alarm to have this function. The car still has security, regardless of if the alarm sounds.
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Can this option be retro fitted ? looks super helpful
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I think I have this option because it is mentioned in my papers where the options are mentioned it is called: Automatic Operation of Tailgate -!

my order also included "Automatic tailgate opening and closing" but continually pressing on the tailgate key on the fob just sets off the alarm, so must be country specific option. On the USA site the text just says you can open with button but doesn't say it's the one on the fob.

p.s. before someone points it out, yes I know it says "X5" but that's what shows up on a "build your own" for X6 (packages) on US site. But it's nice to know it could be done on the X5 with safe-close system, guess the markup for the X6 was too large to include it.
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      12-30-2008, 07:44 PM   #34
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Very interesting. I think I read somewhere that US models have the useless alarm installed whereas Non-US models do not. I wonder if it is possible to disable the alarm somehow and then it will work for us. I would much rather have that feature than have the alarm. That is what Lojack and comprehensive insurance is for.
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Very interesting. I think I read somewhere that US models have the useless alarm installed whereas Non-US models do not. I wonder if it is possible to disable the alarm somehow and then it will work for us. I would much rather have that feature than have the alarm. That is what Lojack and comprehensive insurance is for.

It's not actually an alarm but a "panic alarm" , if you are getting mugged on the way to your car you can push it to set off the alarm and attract attention. I think it's like the "driver door only unlock" and understandably appeal more to women than men.

some have suggested that the non fob closing tailgate is due to liability issues but other manufacturers cars have it so just don't get it.

Agree wish we could dump the alarm and enable it.
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It's not actually an alarm but a "panic alarm" , if you are getting mugged on the way to your car you can push it to set off the alarm and attract attention. I think it's like the "driver door only unlock" and understandably appeal more to women than men.

some have suggested that the non fob closing tailgate is due to liability issues but other manufacturers cars have it so just don't get it.

Agree wish we could dump the alarm and enable it.
If the reason BMW did not do it was for liability then I do not understand why they would put it on European models. Just can't understand the logic there.
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If the reason BMW did not do it was for liability then I do not understand why they would put it on European models. Just can't understand the logic there.

I think BMW logic escapes most of us when it comes to options, especially considering all X6's are produced at the same plant.
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thanxxxxxxxxx for the video it really helps me
sure thing glad i could help

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Great video! Really helps to see how it should work. I wonder if we can have the alarm disabled and this enabled. Maybe some enterprising mechanic can sort through the codes...

Anybody in North America have a relationship with BMW mechanic who could investigate?

We know its now possible, its just a matter of getting it to work. I personally would be happy muting the alarm to have this function. The car still has security, regardless of if the alarm sounds.
I think it's related to country specific options maybe if you contact a dealer somewhere outside the USA you might get lucky

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Very interesting. I think I read somewhere that US models have the useless alarm installed whereas Non-US models do not. I wonder if it is possible to disable the alarm somehow and then it will work for us. I would much rather have that feature than have the alarm. That is what Lojack and comprehensive insurance is for.
non-US models that have alarms installed still preserve this option in place of having the alarm set off when pressing and holding the button on the key fob

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If the reason BMW did not do it was for liability then I do not understand why they would put it on European models. Just can't understand the logic there.
I doubt it's due to reliability issues
for example Lamburghinis have auto sliding engine covers so not having an option of key operated opening/closing might be sensible, if that was the case with our cars then i might be considered as a reliability issue


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      12-31-2008, 09:39 AM   #39
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If the reason BMW did not do it was for liability then I do not understand why they would put it on European models. Just can't understand the logic there.
It's your litigious society. Frivolous class-action lawsuits are way less common in other countries, so BMW worries less about "liability" issues than they do in the US.

I bought a small step-ladder in Dallas a couple of years ago. It had SEVEN warning labels on it! The same thing in Canada just says "Not a step" on the top rung -- in two languages, of course.
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      12-31-2008, 01:19 PM   #40
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Hey dmglc, when my X6 arrives i will check if i can open and close it with the same button, and then i inform u, but thanks for the research you did.
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about alarm..bmw doesnt need alarm..bmw is imposible to steal!
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