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      10-23-2011, 10:07 PM   #1
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Winter tire

I hope it not to late to get those ??

If so what the best on the market ?? for 19'' stock wheels

I was thinking about Scorpion, any others ??
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      10-24-2011, 03:18 PM   #2
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I just got Nokian WR G2 SUV in 20''
http://www.nokiantyres.com/product-group?group=2.01

I will install them in a month or so
I would recomend them based on my research if you dont have to have RFTs

It's still a good time to buy these

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      10-24-2011, 06:52 PM   #3
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are this any better? http://www.nokiantyres.com/tyre?id=1...itta%207%20SUV
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      10-24-2011, 08:02 PM   #4
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i don't think we have to go all out and get studded tires for nyc winters, or no?

I'm about to pull the trigger on a winter setup myself, been looking at the pirelli scorpions but don't know if i should get rft's or not? When do you guys usually swap from summer to winter setup?
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      10-24-2011, 08:16 PM   #5
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well they promising the same as it was in January. So who knows better be prepared
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      10-24-2011, 09:58 PM   #6
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I live a bit north from NYC, about 30 miles
I have very hilly area and i get a lot more snow than NYC
I still picked G2s
Considering you live in flat brooklyn and driving mostly on plowed roads in your AWD X6, even WR G2 is overkill
These are also the best handling dry/wet tires of any winter tires
And you will appreciate this 90%+ of the time in Brooklyn-lack-of-snow winter

So, i believe it's a perfect tire for X6 and NYC winters

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      10-25-2011, 05:28 AM   #7
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Brooklyn is dont have much snow as others, but a lot of ice.
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      10-25-2011, 08:22 AM   #8
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In Brooklyn you have to worry about morons that always try outpace you and then they cant stop soon enough
I commuted in my 3 series for 8 years from Sheepshedbay Brooklyn to upper west side Manhattan
With just winter sport tires it was perfect balance between dry winter and ocasional snow
G2s are even more capable in winter than those Dunlops i had

Now, if you wanna go with studded tire, you may be up for a traffic ticket (i think it's illigal in NYC) and also you going to make this annnoing ticking sound 99% of the time
Also, 99% of the time, when you on dry/wet pavement, your stopping distance and handling will be worse than with G2s

Anyways,
Any winter tire is good, but with some you lose dry/wet grip and with others you lose a bit of winter performance
Pick wisely, based on your environment

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      10-25-2011, 09:23 AM   #9
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Snow tires are much more important for ice than snow. Anyone that has ever ridden on a set of snow tires on ice knows how much more reliable they are than All-Seasons.

I have a set of All-Seasons on my X6 and they were fine for the snow last year but as soon as the road got a little bit icey.. it was a test in patience and attention.
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      10-25-2011, 04:59 PM   #10
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NYCGP,
I'm not sure I understood where you were going with this
You just compared AS with winter tire, were you refering to something?

Current discussion went towards winter studless vs winter studed tires
We are trying to help OP to deside on proper winter tire setup
All-seasons are out of the question
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      10-25-2011, 05:53 PM   #11
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Thank you

decision made Nokian WR G2 SUV
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      10-26-2011, 12:42 AM   #12
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winter tires

do u guys recommend a smaller rim. i ordered my car with the 20 inch y spoke, wanted a winter tire for those only the pirelli scorpion ice and snow available
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NYCGP,
I'm not sure I understood where you were going with this
You just compared AS with winter tire, were you refering to something?

Current discussion went towards winter studless vs winter studed tires
We are trying to help OP to deside on proper winter tire setup
All-seasons are out of the question
Missed that completely. Many areas of the country frown upon studded tires. Especially in metro areas due to their effect on the roads. If he is in the tri-state I would say studless is the way to go.
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do u guys recommend a smaller rim. i ordered my car with the 20 inch y spoke, wanted a winter tire for those only the pirelli scorpion ice and snow available
I personally went with 20s, but i had a few reasons
1. M may not take 19'', due to bigger brakes
2. 20s look better
3. 20s ride better/sportier on dry (that's 90% of the winter in tri-state)
4. I had much smaller sidewall on my 335i and did just fine

Remember that blizzard last year? I drove through it in my 335i from Philly to upstate with zero issues. And this was just RWD car with low clearance

So, 20s vs 19s is a wash on this car
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Are snow tires essential for NY winters? I'm on Long Island and rocking a 5.0 with the huge meats (11" i think) In the rear. I had the Jeep SRT8, which was more powerful, and picked up a set of 8.5" wide 18" wheels and tires for the winter. Consequently, I sold that truck before I had the chance to test em.
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      10-26-2011, 09:43 PM   #16
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With all due respect

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Originally Posted by AndreyATC View Post
I personally went with 20s, but i had a few reasons
1. M may not take 19'', due to bigger brakes
2. 20s look better
3. 20s ride better/sportier on dry (that's 90% of the winter in tri-state)
4. I had much smaller sidewall on my 335i and did just fine

Remember that blizzard last year? I drove through it in my 335i from Philly to upstate with zero issues. And this was just RWD car with low clearance

So, 20s vs 19s is a wash on this car
The view from Canada...

Common wisdom is to go for narrower tires to cut through snow better (rally cars use narrow tires for mud, sand and snow). While a wider contact surface makes sense for ice traction, it is detrimental on hard-packed and icy roads because of the ruts and irregular surface - wde tires "bounce" you around with ruts.

Also, going to a high profile provides more "give" if you hit something at speed (ice ruts).

Because of the higher profile, I stick with RFTs to give me the stiff BMW ride I paid for.
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I personally went with 20s, but i had a few reasons
1. M may not take 19'', due to bigger brakes
2. 20s look better
3. 20s ride better/sportier on dry (that's 90% of the winter in tri-state)
4. I had much smaller sidewall on my 335i and did just fine

Remember that blizzard last year? I drove through it in my 335i from Philly to upstate with zero issues. And this was just RWD car with low clearance

So, 20s vs 19s is a wash on this car
wow, thats crazy haha... i drove about 3 hours in that storm, it was insane, but i would never do it when i had a 335. i think I'm going to go with the 20" pirelli scorpion ice and snow rft, i couldn't find the nokian tires anywhere. should the 11" width be a concern? and how big are the rim/tires on your x6m
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      10-26-2011, 11:45 PM   #18
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I got 20s with 10inch width Nokian WR G2 from WSTO vendor here
I dealt with Julius
He got me whole setup, TSW rims, nokian tires and OEM TPMs
Everything mounted, balanced and ready to drive
I just got these, so i dont think it's a problem to get Nokians
PM Julius@WSTO if you need help with winter setup
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