What\'s a \"M\" engine?

DDP2011X5M · 01-20-2012, 11:24 PM

Dealer said my X5M engine is not a true \"M\" engine. Said the M5, M3 are true \"M\" engines.

Also said a \"M\" engine requires a service at 1200 or so miles. Said engine in my X5M is better in that way.

So what is the difference?

TimZ · 01-20-2012, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DDP2011X5M

Dealer said my X5M engine is not a true \"M\" engine. Said the M5, M3 are true \"M\" engines.

Also said a \"M\" engine requires a service at 1200 or so miles. Said engine in my X5M is better in that way.

So what is the difference?

So the fact that the next gen m5 engine is based on the x5m engine will make the next gen m5 engine a non true M engine.
Your dealer is retarded, your x5m engine is a real M engine.

Biff Grissel · 01-21-2012, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TimZ

So the fact that the next gen m5 engine is based on the x5m engine will make the next gen m5 engine a non true M engine.
Your dealer is retarded, your x5m engine is a real M engine.

mrpcar · 01-21-2012, 08:41 AM

All new model M cars do not require the 1200 miles service.

GmoneyLI · 01-21-2012, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DDP2011X5M

Dealer said my X5M engine is not a true \"M\" engine. Said the M5, M3 are true \"M\" engines.

Also said a \"M\" engine requires a service at 1200 or so miles. Said engine in my X5M is better in that way.

So what is the difference?

He means that a true M engine is naturally aspirated.. No turbos. Traditionally the M divisions' mission statement was pump out power without the use of forced induction. They were purists. This changed with the new head of BMWs M division.

DDP2011X5M · 01-21-2012, 11:48 AM

Thanks for the info. I didn't think he was right. Makes you wonder what else they don't know when servicing your vehicle.

richard in NC · 01-21-2012, 12:08 PM

Another definition of a true ///M motor is one designed from the ground up by ///M. The X5M, X6M and now M5 share the regular production 4.4 block, etc. Same with the 1M sharing the Z4 35is, 335is engine. I think the only prior ///M car with a regular production motor was the US motor for the '95-'99 M3 but it still had a unique build (bore, stroke, intake, exhaust, etc) not found on any regular production BMW.

kw335i · 01-21-2012, 04:13 PM

Which dealer in OC did you go to? I need to make sure I don't go there!!!

DDP2011X5M · 01-21-2012, 05:09 PM

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Which dealer in OC did you go to? I need to make sure I don't go there!!!

Sterling, NP Beach

Blayne · 01-21-2012, 06:28 PM

Isn't the dealer kinda right? Don't see why there is really any reason to hate, besides the fact some might not personally like that statement, as the want to feel "special" to....just saying...

GmoneyLI · 01-21-2012, 07:58 PM

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Isn't the dealer kinda right? Don't see why there is really any reason to hate, besides the fact some might not personally like that statement, as the want to feel "special" to....just saying...

He was kinda right lol it's not a traditional ///M engine. Typically ///M cars have their own engine not shared with any other non ///M model and they were until now, strictly naturally aspirated. It cause a little controversy when they introduced the current engines and I think some people are still sour about it. I personally don't have a problem with it. Alpine has been using forced induction for years and their engines run great. I loved my B7

DDP2011X5M · 01-22-2012, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Blayne

Isn't the dealer kinda right? Don't see why there is really any reason to hate, besides the fact some might not personally like that statement, as the want to feel "special" to....just saying...

He was kinda right lol it's not a traditional ///M engine. Typically ///M cars have their own engine not shared with any other non ///M model and they were until now, strictly naturally aspirated. It cause a little controversy when they introduced the current engines and I think some people are still sour about it. I personally don't have a problem with it. Alpine has been using forced induction for years and their engines run great. I loved my B7

The only problem was he said the M5, M3 have true "M" engines, unlike the X5M engine

GmoneyLI · 01-22-2012, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DDP2011X5M

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Originally Posted by GmoneyLI

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Originally Posted by Blayne

Isn't the dealer kinda right? Don't see why there is really any reason to hate, besides the fact some might not personally like that statement, as the want to feel "special" to....just saying...

He was kinda right lol it's not a traditional ///M engine. Typically ///M cars have their own engine not shared with any other non ///M model and they were until now, strictly naturally aspirated. It cause a little controversy when they introduced the current engines and I think some people are still sour about it. I personally don't have a problem with it. Alpine has been using forced induction for years and their engines run great. I loved my B7

The only problem was he said the M5, M3 have true "M" engines, unlike the X5M engine

As of right now they both do. M3 has a naturally aspirated v8 and the last M5 had a naturally aspirated V10. Both engines were/are only available on ///M models (M3, M5, M6). The new M's will have the new engine platforms.
IMO he shouldn't of said they aren't "real" ///M engines, he should of said they aren't the "traditional" ///M engines. That statement would of been more appropriate.

GmoneyLI · 01-22-2012, 01:06 PM

I misquoted.. I meant "true" instead of "real"

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richard in NC Colonel 1229 Rep 2,602 Posts Drives: 2009 Z4 35i Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Charlotte, NC iTrader: (0)	Another definition of a true ///M motor is one designed from the ground up by ///M. The X5M, X6M and now M5 share the regular production 4.4 block, etc. Same with the 1M sharing the Z4 35is, 335is engine. I think the only prior ///M car with a regular production motor was the US motor for the '95-'99 M3 but it still had a unique build (bore, stroke, intake, exhaust, etc) not found on any regular production BMW. __________________ 2020 X3M non-comp, Alpine White over black : Exec Pkg, ventilated M Sport seats, 20"s 2020 M2 Comp, Sunset Orange/Blk: Orange stitching, DCT, exec pkg, bicolor rims Gone '18 M550i, '16 X4 M40i, '15 M5, '13 X3 35i, '12 335is, '11 X5 50i, '09 Z4 35i, '08 550i, 06 X3, 06 650i, '02 M5, '99 540i
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