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      03-21-2017, 03:20 PM   #1
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22" Tires.

Those of you running 22" wheels, what are you doing for tires?

The 335/25 Pirelli Scorpions have been discontinued. There is a newer Pirelli in the same size, but there is no matching 285-295/30 front.

I know Continental, SportContact 6, has the right sizes, but are not available here in the US.

Off-brand tires are not an option (yet).

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Look at Vredestein Vorti.
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Look at Vredestein Vorti.
Thanks denaliman! Yes, after posting, I did come across the Vredestein combo 335/25 & 295/30. Do you have first hand experience with the tires?
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Look at Vredestein Vorti.
Good luck finding those as well. Late last year I was on the hunt and could only find a single front tire in the whole US. I had called 10-15 tire shops from east to westcoast, they all use the same couple of distributors. I put a lot of effort into finding them because I had rears sitting in the garage. Ultimately ended up shipping the rears back and settling with the scorpions. Word is that there should be more inventory coming for summer though.

Hopefully Continental will start importing the SC6 sizes we need.
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Love my vredestein vorti.. Easy to find here in Europe..
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Thanks denaliman! Yes, after posting, I did come across the Vredestein combo 335/25 & 295/30. Do you have first hand experience with the tires?
Not the Vorti but I had the Vred Ultra Sessanta on my X5 and liked them. Softer sidewall than I prefer.
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Finally, they discontinued them. I never was a fan of the Pirelli Scorpion. Noisy, harsh and poor grip.

I have nothing but good things to say about Continental Contact Sport 6. I have them on both of my sets of 22s (295/335) so hopefully they will available to US market.

Can't go wrong with Vreds, ran them in the past and very capable tires!
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      03-22-2017, 11:35 AM   #8
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Not the Vorti but I had the Vred Ultra Sessanta on my X5 and liked them. Softer sidewall than I prefer.
As a fellow Canadian , where do you get your rubber? I cant find any 335/25 or 285/30 around here.

Debating to just go with 305/30 (315/30 maybe) and/or 295/30
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      03-23-2017, 09:39 PM   #9
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I emailed Pirelli with this rumor and they said it's not true. Either way, the ones I do find are upwards of almost $700 each vs two years ago when I bought two for $650 on Amazon. Crucify me for this but I've been looking at Lexani and Lionhart because, let's be honest, a 22" wheel and tires package of these sizes aren't meant to be used for aggressive driving or track use...I'll switch back to my 20" for that. The previous owner of my E53 X5 put some Lexani LX4000 tires on the iForged 20's and they seemed to develop flat spots from sitting overnight but was fine once warmed up. Hopefully they've gotten better over the years.
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      03-23-2017, 10:34 PM   #10
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I emailed Pirelli with this rumor and they said it's not true.
The Pirelli Scorpion Zero Asimmetrico, as a line, has not been discontinued, but the 335/25/22 is no longer available. No one has this tire in stock and it is no longer listed on their site as an available size.

I think the tire you are looking at, from Pirelli, is the P Zero - a completely different tire. It is available in the 335/25/22, but there is no matching 285-295/30/22 front available. And, yes, this is a ~$600 tire.

The only two options appear to be the Vredestein Ultrac Vorti and the Continental SportContact6. These are both available in 335/25 & 295/30 combo. The Vredestein appear to be readily available in the US. The Continentals are not currently available in the US, but if you're the resourceful type, you could...
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I emailed Pirelli with this rumor and they said it's not true. Either way, the ones I do find are upwards of almost $700 each vs two years ago when I bought two for $650 on Amazon. Crucify me for this but I've been looking at Lexani and Lionhart because, let's be honest, a 22" wheel and tires package of these sizes aren't meant to be used for aggressive driving or track use...I'll switch back to my 20" for that. The previous owner of my E53 X5 put some Lexani LX4000 tires on the iForged 20's and they seemed to develop flat spots from sitting overnight but was fine once warmed up. Hopefully they've gotten better over the years.
Dude consider how many Lexani and Lionhart tires are sold with little or no complaints at all. Almost every US SUV and some German that run 22's all rock them. Every Burb, Tahoe, or Escapade run them and they do just fine.

Of course, if you're at the track I recommend you spend a bit and get some track ready tire. In over a year and a half of ownership I can tell you that not once have I needed a track spec tire, and I DRIVE.

With that said, I'd rather have new Lexani's on my ride every 8 months than one set of some $2K++ fan boy tires.
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The Pirelli Scorpion Zero Asimmetrico, as a line, has not been discontinued, but the 335/25/22 is no longer available. No one has this tire in stock and it is no longer listed on their site as an available size.

I think the tire you are looking at, from Pirelli, is the P Zero - a completely different tire. It is available in the 335/25/22, but there is no matching 285-295/30/22 front available. And, yes, this is a ~$600 tire.

The only two options appear to be the Vredestein Ultrac Vorti and the Continental SportContact6. These are both available in 335/25 & 295/30 combo. The Vredestein appear to be readily available in the US. The Continentals are not currently available in the US, but if you're the resourceful type, you could...
At this point, I don't really care if they match. $600+ per tire is stupid, period. For whatever it's worth.
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Dude consider how many Lexani and Lionhart tires are sold with little or no complaints at all. Almost every US SUV and some German that run 22's all rock them. Every Burb, Tahoe, or Escapade run them and they do just fine.

Of course, if you're at the track I recommend you spend a bit and get some track ready tire. In over a year and a half of ownership I can tell you that not once have I needed a track spec tire, and I DRIVE.

With that said, I'd rather have new Lexani's on my ride every 8 months than one set of some $2K++ fan boy tires.
I'm leaning towards this logic as well. The hardest time I drive my X5M on 22's is for the week that I'm gone to Bimmerfest, the other 6 months I'm doing DD duties back and forth to work in Seattle's short summer. Once the rain returns, then I throw the 20's back on.
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I think this is going sideways. I agree, $600 for a single tire is outrageous.

The Vredestein and Continentals are comparably priced. I sourced and paid €1120 for the SportContacts6s shipped to the US.

For me, I'd rather pay a small premium, over Lexani or Lionhart, for what I perceive as a quality tire.
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Dude consider how many Lexani and Lionhart tires are sold with little or no complaints at all. Almost every US SUV and some German that run 22's all rock them. Every Burb, Tahoe, or Escapade run them and they do just fine.

Of course, if you're at the track I recommend you spend a bit and get some track ready tire. In over a year and a half of ownership I can tell you that not once have I needed a track spec tire, and I DRIVE.

With that said, I'd rather have new Lexani's on my ride every 8 months than one set of some $2K++ fan boy tires.
I'm leaning towards this logic as well. The hardest time I drive my X5M on 22's is for the week that I'm gone to Bimmerfest, the other 6 months I'm doing DD duties back and forth to work in Seattle's short summer. Once the rain returns, then I throw the 20's back on.
Exactly.

I had to do a 500 mile round trip drive twice in the past month. Guess what I did? I slapped on my stocks with nice juicy Pirellis and I drove. When I got back home I slapped on the 22's. It takes me 20 minutes, literally, to swap tires. I'm like a one man pit crew. It's all about having the right tools.

For DD going to work and back and the occasional red light blast, I'm sure any tire will do.

Sitting in LA rain!
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I think this is going sideways. I agree, $600 for a single tire is outrageous.

The Vredestein and Continentals are comparably priced. I sourced and paid €1120 for the SportContacts6s shipped to the US.

For me, I'd rather pay a small premium, over Lexani or Lionhart, for what I perceive as a quality tire.
You will love them, the Pirelli's are OK if you don't wanna be seen using a cheap ass brand, but other than that I really don't rate them. Contis are whole other level of awesome
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i just ordered set of lionharts for $700, cant go wrong plus free shipping
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hey guys, I have 22" rims, 9" front and 10.5" rear. the only tires I could find to fit were lexani" LX-TWENTY 265/30R22 97W XL front and 315 /25R22 101W XL rear. but when I went to get them put on today discount tires said the load rating is not right, that the tires would get hot and be crushed. I've never in life had this much trouble finding tires for a vehicle. I find only Pirelli tires would work, which are very expensive and the rears are on back order until who knows when, right??
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You will love them, the Pirelli's are OK if you don't wanna be seen using a cheap ass brand, but other than that I really don't rate them. Contis are whole other level of awesome
I don't see Contis listed anywhere via eBay or Amazon.
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hey guys, I have 22" rims, 9" front and 10.5" rear. the only tires I could find to fit were lexani" LX-TWENTY 265/30R22 97W XL front and 315 /25R22 101W XL rear. but when I went to get them put on today discount tires said the load rating is not right, that the tires would get hot and be crushed. I've never in life had this much trouble finding tires for a vehicle. I find only Pirelli tires would work, which are very expensive and the rears are on back order until who knows when, right??
I had that same problem with my Harley F150 and when wanting to swap tires from left to right on my previous E53 X5. You've just gotta find a smaller mom and pop type shop that'll still take your $20 and send you on your way. Those load ratings are mostly intended for towing and bigger places don't want the liability.
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I don't see Contis listed anywhere via eBay or Amazon.
Seems for whatever reason US distributors don't feel the need to bring them in.

Perhaps with some pressure from retailers that might change. Vreds are good to go from what I hear, so I'd choose them over Pirelli anyday!
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If you look on eBay.co.uk you can find the Conti's in the sizes needed. About 1,300 not including shipping to us.
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