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      04-25-2015, 02:45 AM   #1
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I will change front pads myself, and after looking on realoem i found out the following:
> Repair kit, brake pads asbestos free
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The following parts are essential:
- brake pad sensor
- brake pad paste
The following recommendation applies to vehiclea more than 48 months old:
- replace retaining spring

I found:
> brake pad wear sensor, front left
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> clip for brake pad sensor
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But i just can't find retaining spring and brake pad paste. Can any of you help me? Car is a MY2010

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I would just re-use the retaining spring. You can get brake paste at any auto parts store ( anti- squeal paste).
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The "brake paste" is just never seize for the ears and back of the pads.
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There is the expansion spring for the pads:
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The clip for the brake pad wear sensor:
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Save yourself the brake dust and skip the OEM pads... I just put the Centric Posi-Quiet in all around and the brake dust is SO much better.
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Save yourself the brake dust and skip the OEM pads... I just put the Centric Posi-Quiet in all around and the brake dust is SO much better.
What is killing me on OEM pads is the squeal, which is present only when i reverse. I don't understand how is this possible.
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What is killing me on OEM pads is the squeal, which is present only when i reverse. I don't understand how is this possible.
The break pad sensors are worn in the forward moving motion so when you go in reverse you will hear some squeling
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Save yourself the brake dust and skip the OEM pads... I just put the Centric Posi-Quiet in all around and the brake dust is SO much better.
How is the stopping power and initial grab. I like ceramic pads, but they don't seem to grab as well as OEM. Especially when cold or wet/rain. Would you say they are same, better or worse??
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What is killing me on OEM pads is the squeal, which is present only when i reverse. I don't understand how is this possible.
When you are done perhaps you can do a quick write up of your procedure for changing the pads
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What is killing me on OEM pads is the squeal, which is present only when i reverse. I don't understand how is this possible.
Yeah, to be honest, that drove me crazy too. The Centric Posi-Quiet pads don't do that NEARLY as much, although still on occasion. Typically the only time I hear any squeal is when I first back out of the driveway in the morning...

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The break pad sensors are worn in the forward moving motion so when you go in reverse you will hear some squeling
Hmm, no. The brake pad wear sensor is clipped into the pad backing plate. So, it doesn't touch anything until the pads are completely worn down. And that being said, the head of the sensor (the part that clips into the pad backing plate) is plastic, so there's no way it would make any sort of squealing.

Typically, pad squeal is due to improper seating between the pad and rotor. This is even more evident when pads and rotors are not properly bedded together after installation. Properly bedding pads and rotors is very important, and it will help improve the pad performance if done properly.

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How is the stopping power and initial grab. I like ceramic pads, but they don't seem to grab as well as OEM. Especially when cold or wet/rain. Would you say they are same, better or worse??
Honestly, the pads have been fine. The X is my wife's vehicle, so it gets driven extremely gently. So, the pads never really get HOT, although they do still perform just fine. I've done a few heavy stops and they were great. Also, I did bed them in upon installation, and I definitely feel like it helped improve performance. So, to sum up my thoughts, I feel the Posi-Quiets have the same performance for daily driving duty with the added benefit of very low dust. I'm happy with them, especially for the $110 price tag for the full set.
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I will change front pads myself, and after looking on realoem i found out the following:

But i just can't find retaining spring and brake pad paste. Can any of you help me? Car is a MY2010

Many thanks
If you're asking these kinds of questions perhaps you should get a more experienced friend to help with this first time around. Brakes are kind of important
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I will change front pads myself, and after looking on realoem i found out the following:

But i just can't find retaining spring and brake pad paste. Can any of you help me? Car is a MY2010

Many thanks
If you're asking these kinds of questions perhaps you should get a more experienced friend to help with this first time around. Brakes are kind of important
I was stating that in the realoem diagram i can't find the part numbers for those specific parts recommended by BMW: retaining spring and brake paste. And hoping that the guys around here could provide the part numbers, as they already did.
Thanks!
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You do definitely want to make sure things are done correctly if its your first go, but that being said, brake pads are easy. As for the paste, don't waste your time/money buying BMW branded brake paste. Get one of those little squirt packs of never seize at the local AutoZone/Pep Boys/etc. and use that. Copper anti-seize is what I use... High heat resistance.
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Save yourself the brake dust and skip the OEM pads... I just put the Centric Posi-Quiet in all around and the brake dust is SO much better.
Aren't the OEM pads dustier because they are softer? I would think a softer pad wouldn't be so hard on the rotors, thus extending the rotor's life. Something has to give, either the pad or the rotor. Have you heard anything about these compared to the stocks in terms of hardness?
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Save yourself the brake dust and skip the OEM pads... I just put the Centric Posi-Quiet in all around and the brake dust is SO much better.
Aren't the OEM pads dustier because they are softer? I would think a softer pad wouldn't be so hard on the rotors, thus extending the rotor's life. Something has to give, either the pad or the rotor. Have you heard anything about these compared to the stocks in terms of hardness?
No I have not. I will be measuring the rotors shortly before my service plan runs out... If they are close, I'll be getting them replaced.
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Aren't the OEM pads dustier because they are softer? I would think a softer pad wouldn't be so hard on the rotors, thus extending the rotor's life. Something has to give, either the pad or the rotor. Have you heard anything about these compared to the stocks in terms of hardness?
Ceramic pads last the longest and dust the least typically. metallic/semi-metallic pads dust more, and are harsher on rotors, typically.

My race pads dust like a mofo, and eat up the rotors more often. (Not a BMW application)

I'd take a ceramic pad all the time on my X5 when it's time to swap pads as part of normal maintenance. I don't tow anything, and for the street, it'll be perfect for the application.
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For what it's worth, I have a brand new set of OEM rear pads. The dealer wouldn't put my Posi Quiet pads on when they did the last brake service, so I drove it home and swapped them out myself. The pads have about 30 miles on them, $20 plus shipping if anyone wants them.
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For what it's worth, I have a brand new set of OEM rear pads. The dealer wouldn't put my Posi Quiet pads on when they did the last brake service, so I drove it home and swapped them out myself. The pads have about 30 miles on them, $20 plus shipping if anyone wants them.
Why would they not put them on? They are semi-metallic not ceramic correct?
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A lot of dealers will not install parts the customer brings in. There are multiple reasons, liability, if the part doesn't fit properly and takes more time to install, etc. If you are under maintenance, then BMW is providing the parts. Typically if you want your own parts installed, you need to go to an independent mechanic and even some of them will not install parts you bring in.
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A lot of dealers will not install parts the customer brings in. There are multiple reasons, liability, if the part doesn't fit properly and takes more time to install, etc. If you are under maintenance, then BMW is providing the parts. Typically if you want your own parts installed, you need to go to an independent mechanic and even some of them will not install parts you bring in.
Too bad for you guys. I have never had a problem with my dealer installing aftermarket parts. I guess I have a good dealer.
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Yeah, I don't know. They know me pretty well, know that I do 90% of my own work anyway. In fact, the only reason I even brought it there for brakes is because I do have the extended maintenance. They flushed the fluid too, so it was worth it for me there.
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