E70 now or F15 next year?

[ndabunka]

Originally Posted by DR1er

True! but the Cayenne feels somehow better to drive. According to the specs in each manufacturer's own website, the X5d is supposed to reach 60mph faster than the Cayenne diesel. I tested both and the Cayenne feels much faster... I guess is an illusion because of it being lighter...? did you guys have the same impression?

of course I'm not a racing driver and if I was most certainly I wouldn't choose an SUV for racing, but can't deny that it feels right when you step on in and it MOVES!

Definitely the X5 can be optioned a lot more with the same amount of money and there are many things not available in the Cayenne... maybe I should take a night shift job and buy both (just kidding in case somebody takes it literally)

I found the Cayenne's acceleration "immediate" whereas the X5d takes a second (or partial second) to "wake up" (my term). I suspect this is due to the design of the turbo (maybe even initially dormant) but once the revs get up there, the X5 scoots! In the end, I could not justify the additional $14,407 for the Porsche in the equivalent configuration as the X5 35d that I bought. My opinion is that the Porsche will likely just get better with age so in 3 years when this is over 50% paid for, I may consider the Cayenne once more. Who knows, by then I may not even care about fuel economy and will end up buying a turbo instead of a Diesel...

[JNoSol]

Originally Posted by BSM328xi

2013 does not have the face lift or LED headlights. If you are referring to the F15, that is likely going to be released in 2013, as a 2014 model year vehicle.

Are you sure about that??? I don't think this is an F15, but an E70 M. The X6 is also getting the full LED for 2013. I found a couple X6s and X5M at the local dealership with the full LED headlight, they're so beautiful. $1,900 option.

[DR1er]

Originally Posted by JNoSol

Are you sure about that??? I don't think this is an F15, but an E70 M. The X6 is also getting the full LED for 2013. I found a couple X6s and X5M at the local dealership with the full LED headlight, they're so beautiful. $1,900 option.

They look sweet! but the full LED headlight has been available for the X5M...you can see it in the car builder tool at BMW's website. I think the previous comment was referring to it being available for regular X5s (gasoline and diesel) for 2013 models.

[DR1er]

Originally Posted by ndabunka

I found the Cayenne's acceleration "immediate" whereas the X5d takes a second (or partial second) to "wake up" (my term). I suspect this is due to the design of the turbo (maybe even initially dormant) but once the revs get up there, the X5 scoots! In the end, I could not justify the additional $14,407 for the Porsche in the equivalent configuration as the X5 35d that I bought. My opinion is that the Porsche will likely just get better with age so in 3 years when this is over 50% paid for, I may consider the Cayenne once more. Who knows, by then I may not even care about fuel economy and will end up buying a turbo instead of a Diesel...

Yes, I think so too. I'll go tomorrow and test drive the X5d again to try and finally make up my mind

[JNoSol]

Originally Posted by DR1er

They look sweet! but the full LED headlight has been available for the X5M...you can see it in the car builder tool at BMW's website. I think the previous comment was referring to it being available for regular X5s (gasoline and diesel) for 2013 models.

Yep, they are sweet. Do you think the builder tool is just out of date, because regular X6s get the full LED. Unless the headlight on the X5M and X6s are different from the X5, which I doubt they are.

[ND40oz]

Originally Posted by JNoSol

Yep, they are sweet. Do you think the builder tool is just out of date, because regular X6s get the full LED. Unless the headlight on the X5M and X6s are different from the X5, which I doubt they are.

The X5M uses the X6's front end, so you can get full LED on it. You'd have to do a complete front end replacement to get it on the regular X5, hood, bumper, fenders, headlights, etc.

[JNoSol]

Originally Posted by ND40oz

The X5M uses the X6's front end, so you can get full LED on it. You'd have to do a complete front end replacement to get it on the regular X5, hood, bumper, fenders, headlights, etc.

I learn something new everyday from this forum, thanks for the clarification.

[BSM328xi]

Sorry for the delay...I meant for non "X5M" models. Yes, the 2013 X6 got the full LED option but the 2013 X5 (non M) does not have that option.

Hope that clarifies...

[sycd]

I was in the same boat and decided to get the 2013 X5 with V8 and M performance tuning. This SUV is amazing. I wouldn't buy a new gen BMW like this in its first year, so that would have pushed back my purchase by a couple of years which was too long. The external design still looks fresh, and it includes all the electronic gizmos I wanted. The interior still looks good as well.