Winter setup downside on X5's with Sport package

[2thdr]

Originally Posted by IGotId

Where did you order the Pirellis from? Are the rears available in an appropriate sized narrower rear?

Glad I could be of help to others in the same situation.

I ordered the tires from Tirerack. Took some time to get them. Thee rears were readily available, but the fronts took some time to arrive.

Deephs, I would honestly go for dedicated 20 snows and summers. There is no comparison, especially when you consider what is riding on them.

[IGotId]

Originally Posted by 2thdr

Glad I could be of help to others in the same situation.

I ordered the tires from Tirerack. Took some time to get them. Thee rears were readily available, but the fronts took some time to arrive.

Deephs, I would honestly go for dedicated 20 snows and summers. There is no comparison, especially when you consider what is riding on them.

thanks!

[263464757]

I'm amazed by all the worry about 19's being better than 20's in snow. I know they say thinner is better, but Come On People... think about it. Do you really think it's that noticeable? It's almost as if we've taken all of our direction from "the almighty Tire Rack". I have read "SOME" useful info from them, but mostly, I think there like a Jiffy Lube... They deal with to many types of vehicle's to know much about any of them. Let alone the kind of stuff were driving!

My 5.0 SAV with 20's has trouble stopping "not" accelerating in snow, so why in the world would I want less rubber on the road.

Remind's me of the guy at Ford who told all the Mustang Gt owners that cars handle better with a thinner tire....Uhhhhhh...What?

Here it is boys....Snow tires on 4 corners are the best for snow, 98% of all all seasons are marginal at best in snow, and 100% of summer tires suck in snow. For get about the size. If ya don't mind skinny's get 19's, and if ya like the big fatty's, get 20's.

[Kloogy]

Originally Posted by 263464757

I'm amazed by all the worry about 19's being better than 20's in snow. I know they say thinner is better, but Come On People... think about it. Do you really think it's that noticeable? It's almost as if we've taken all of our direction from "the almighty Tire Rack". I have read "SOME" useful info from them, but mostly, I think there like a Jiffy Lube... They deal with to many types of vehicle's to know much about any of them. Let alone the kind of stuff were driving!

My 5.0 SAV with 20's has trouble stopping "not" accelerating in snow, so why in the world would I want less rubber on the road.

Remind's me of the guy at Ford who told all the Mustang Gt owners that cars handle better with a thinner tire....Uhhhhhh...What?

Here it is boys....Snow tires on 4 corners are the best for snow, 98% of all all seasons are marginal at best in snow, and 100% of summer tires suck in snow. For get about the size. If ya don't mind skinny's get 19's, and if ya like the big fatty's, get 20's.

Thank you

[Ikendiken]

Originally Posted by 263464757

My 5.0 SAV with 20's has trouble stopping "not" accelerating in snow, so why in the world would I want less rubber on the road.

I think that's the whole point right there. The 20's are wider (and a slightly larger circumference) which results in more surface area which we all know means that the weight is distributed over a larger area. This is the same effect that snow shoes provide. If the difference in weight distribution means that the rubber can no longer make contact with the road, then you'll end up with better traction (and stopping power) with the 19's.

[cblounder]

Just my two cents but tire rack and a few local tire dealers in my area are unable to get Pirelli Scorpion Ice & Snow in the 20 inch staggered set up, seems like all of our foresighted friends bought their tires early.

[2thdr]

Toyo Observe G-02 Plus in the staggered setup. You can also run 275 40 20 on the rear rims with apparently no detrimental effect. One member has shown pics on the forum before illustrating little if any compromise in mounting and rim protection. I'll try to find the link. The advantage with 275's I believe is that there may be way more options.

[2thdr]

And here is that link:

http://www.xoutpost.com/783104-post1.html

[bavarian19]

just put spacers on the rear