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      11-02-2009, 11:56 AM   #23
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sorry about the double post was editing and had network problems.
I don't hate fords just think it's a stupid comparison.
comparing the mustang to the z28 is reasonable comparison, x6 to raptor dumb.
Its all good, I just like messing with people who double post. Nothing against you.
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      11-02-2009, 09:22 PM   #25
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it doesnt make sense at all...
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      11-02-2009, 10:07 PM   #26
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Strange comparo IMO.
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It came in second, only behind the M5.
i think i know which video you are talking about, it was a 550i not an M5
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      11-03-2009, 12:45 AM   #28
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Double Post.

And if it is a Top Gear like test, it will be a lot of fun. And whats with the Ford hate on this thread?

One could easily compare the SHO to an E90 335i.

And there is a series of videos called 6 versus 8, where M&T I think it was took a new MKS, basically a Lincoln SHO, and put it in a hill climb event against an M5, S55, Maserati Quattroporte, and a Jag XF R.

It came in second, only behind the M5.

Fords do compare to Euro brands and while this is an odd comparo, it should be a good one.
I might agree if liked freak shows but I quit going to the circus years ago.

Sure one can say "Fords do compare to Euro brands" - let's do a Ford GT40 with a Porsche Carrera GT, or do a round up comparo with a Vet, a Porsche, Jag, etc. - good job! behind you 100 percent.

Let's take it another step: How about a comparo between a Vet and a VW Touareg. That's a fair comparison one might say, they both have four wheels, they both have engines, etc. and after all, "Chevy's do compare to Euro brands", right!? It's just a matter of ground clearance, so we won't take the Vet off road, and then we'll. . . it goes on.

Points:

1. The X6 may be AWD, but it not an off-road vehicle - the Ford SVT is.

2. The two vehicles are not close to the same class in configuration, height, width, overall size, intended purpose, etc.

3. It's not a valid "comparison" - see points 1 and 2, above.

Don't insult our intelligence with "Fords do compare to Euro brands" as if that's a valid argument.
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i think i know which video you are talking about, it was a 550i not an M5
D'oh, youre completely right.

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I might agree if liked freak shows but I quit going to the circus years ago.

Sure one can say "Fords do compare to Euro brands" - let's do a Ford GT40 with a Porsche Carrera GT, or do a round up comparo with a Vet, a Porsche, Jag, etc. - good job! behind you 100 percent.

Let's take it another step: How about a comparo between a Vet and a VW Touareg. That's a fair comparison one might say, they both have four wheels, they both have engines, etc. and after all, "Chevy's do compare to Euro brands", right!? It's just a matter of ground clearance, so we won't take the Vet off road, and then we'll. . . it goes on.

Points:

1. The X6 may be AWD, but it not an off-road vehicle - the Ford SVT is.

2. The two vehicles are not close to the same class in configuration, height, width, overall size, intended purpose, etc.

3. It's not a valid "comparison" - see points 1 and 2, above.

Don't insult our intelligence with "Fords do compare to Euro brands" as if that's a valid argument.
Insult your intelligence? Huh? I said that it was a strange comparo, but that if it was Top Gear style that it would be a fun watch.

Points:

1. I never said the X6 is an offroad vehicle. In fact on the last page I said that if it was an on road test, the X6 would win and that if it was an offroad test than the Raptor would win.

2. I never said they were

3. If its Top Gear style than it doesnt have to be "valid"

4. Fords are excellent cars and trucks. I was simply informing the people in the US that have the incorrect notion that Fords are crap cars.

5. a. Umm, no, Chevys do not compare to Euro brands...they are just crap, everywhere you go.
b. You took that a step to far, but even so why could you not compare a Corvette to a Toureg? Top gear compared a Dihatsu to an Azcari (not sure if I spelled that correctly). So long as it is a fun video to watch, albiet not the most informative video ever, who cares, and more importantly, if you enjoy it whose time was wasted?

6. And 6 is the most important one.

Try reading all of my posts on this thread before you become an asshole, ok?
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D'oh, youre completely right.

Insult your intelligence? Huh? I said that it was a strange comparo, but that if it was Top Gear style that it would be a fun watch.

Points:

1. I never said the X6 is an offroad vehicle. In fact on the last page I said that if it was an on road test, the X6 would win and that if it was an offroad test than the Raptor would win.

2. I never said they were

3. If its Top Gear style than it doesnt have to be "valid"

4. Fords are excellent cars and trucks. I was simply informing the people in the US that have the incorrect notion that Fords are crap cars.

5. a. Umm, no, Chevys do not compare to Euro brands...they are just crap, everywhere you go.
b. You took that a step to far, but even so why could you not compare a Corvette to a Toureg? Top gear compared a Dihatsu to an Azcari (not sure if I spelled that correctly). So long as it is a fun video to watch, albiet not the most informative video ever, who cares, and more importantly, if you enjoy it whose time was wasted?

6. And 6 is the most important one.

Try reading all of my posts on this thread before you become an asshole, ok?
It did insult my intelligence and here's why:
  1. Nobody here had to say the X6 was an off-road vehicle, but there are people (not saying it’s you) that suggested the X6 should be thrown into the same bucket as standard SUV AWD and trucks. The idea is that some think X6’s AWD makes the comparison valid. Why else would Top Gear do the comparo?
  2. Ok, I’m fine with that cuz I watch Top Gear all the time.
  3. I currently own a Mercury Sable and my wife owns a Lincoln Nav, and we too are making the transition from American to European. I’ve been hanging our here just to make sure I don’t buy another “pig in the poke” OK. And yes, Ford may be the “crème de la crème” of the US manufactures, and give ‘em extra points for not only surviving but also posting a profit. Fact is all that says is people here in the US that buy US have nowhere else to go but Ford as it‘s the only safe haven - Ford may be the only one to survive. But having said that, my history of ownership of the US auto manufacture alphabet soup gives me the right say they are all crap - but Ford is only slightly better crap. I paid my dues in 1980’s when all my friends were buying Hondas but I resigned myself to by US, and the day after I drove my Chevy off the lot, Ford made the headlines that they paid out huge bonuses in spite of the fact they posted massive losses to their balance sheet and stuck their stockholders in the a**. In my experience, every one of these brands has had premature preventable failures. I’d be in a Japanese car right now but I’m tired of sending all my money to Asia.
  4. Chevy may be crap, but there are more sports car performance market comparisons between the Vet than any other US make, including Ford. And why not do a compare with a vet and a Toureg – it’s just as valid as comparing a X6 to a Ford SVT PU, which is precisely my point.
  5. Fine have fun with the vid, but don’t justify the comparison with citing example of other comparisons and top it off with the statement “Fords do compare to Euro brands”. That’s what pissed me off.
  6. I did read the entire thread before I posted.
I apologize for being an a**hole so let’s drop here.
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      11-03-2009, 01:16 PM   #31
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Anybody some more info about the soundtrack in the video?
Thnx!
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Anybody some more info about the soundtrack in the video?
Thnx!
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