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      01-15-2018, 01:31 AM   #67
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It is and was despicable and continues to carry on to this day.

Democratic President: Genius and savior of the galaxy. Feminist regardless of sex.
Republican President: Dunce who wants to kill the poor, gays, and persons of color.

Mr. Trump is calling out the media for their hypocrisy. It's driving them into a frenzy and has been for approaching 2 years. Bravo for shaking up the system and exposing the actual enemies of the country.
You can see this clearly in action. I normally like much of the reporting of 60 Minutes. But the story they ran recently with the person in charge of RT is just beyond words. Leslie Stahl states in the story to Margarita Simonyan that Russia used Facebook to influence the election with targeted ads. She says this around 3:55 into the video:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rt-edit...paganda-label/

Yet, 60 Minutes ran a story about Brad Parscale, campaign director for Trump during the election. In the story which is locked from open access unless you have a subscription now, Brad stated how he was able to use social media to get the message out and how Facebook provided staff to help them use the tools within Facebook to do so. My how short memories people have at 60 minutes being the story on October 8th, 2017. And funny that Leslie Stahl was the reporter on that story.

https://www.cbsnews.com/videos/how-f...d-elect-trump/

I remember this episode clearly as I watched it; which triggered my WTF moment when I saw the RT episdoe.
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I met him at the AMG factory along with Mr. Rosberg in 2012. I got his autograph and gave it to my daughter. I've met a bunch of the F1 guys but now that MSC is in the shape he's currently in, I consider myself very fortunate to have met him.

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You can see this clearly in action. I normally like much of the reporting of 60 Minutes. But the story they ran recently with the person in charge of RT is just beyond words. Leslie Stahl states in the story to Margarita Simonyan that Russia used Facebook to influence the election with targeted ads. She says this around 3:55 into the video:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rt-edit...paganda-label/

Yet, 60 Minutes ran a story about Brad Parscale, campaign director for Trump during the election. In the story which is locked from open access unless you have a subscription now, Brad stated how he was able to use social media to get the message out and how Facebook provided staff to help them use the tools within Facebook to do so. My how short memories people have at 60 minutes being the story on October 8th, 2017. And funny that Leslie Stahl was the reporter on that story.

https://www.cbsnews.com/videos/how-f...d-elect-trump/

I remember this episode clearly as I watched it; which triggered my WTF moment when I saw the RT episdoe.
You are 100% correct. This is how the propaganda slips in and the uninformed are swayed.

My WTF moment was when they were describing the tax plans of Mr. Gore vs. Mr. Bush. Mr. Gore had a well thought out and researched tax relief plan and Mr. Bush had a tax scheme. They ended all pretense of objectivity and haven't looked back since.
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You are 100% correct. This is how the propaganda slips in and the uninformed are swayed.

My WTF moment was when they were describing the tax plans of Mr. Gore vs. Mr. Bush. Mr. Gore had a well thought out and researched tax relief plan and Mr. Bush had a tax scheme. They ended all pretense of objectivity and haven't looked back since.
My WTF moment was more than 20 years ago while getting my MBA. We had a class called Management Communications and one case we studied involved a company that had some public relations nightmare to deal with. Can't recall the company or issue but the real eye opener for me was the 60 Minutes episode on the company.

60 Minutes wanted to interview the CEO about the issue and he agreed but only if he could have his own camera recording the full interview, which 60 Minutes agreed to. We were then shown the 60 Minutes story which made the CEO look very bad, almost deceptive in his answers, making the company appear quite guilty of it's alleged transgression. We were then shown the unedited tape from the CEO's own camera. It was shocking how much had been edited out! The man's answers were usually cut short, not showing his full response/explanation. This editing of course allowed 60 Minutes to spin the story they wanted to tell. If you saw the CEO's full interview you came a very different conclusion.

Edit: ALL news organizations are guilty of this so I'm not picking sides. Journalism today would make William Randolph Hearst proud!
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My WTF moment was more than 20 years ago while getting my MBA. We had a class called Management Communications and one case we studied involved a company that had some public relations nightmare to deal with. Can't recall the company or issue but the real eye opener for me was the 60 Minutes episode on the company.

60 Minutes wanted to interview the CEO about the issue and he agreed but only if he could have his own camera recording the full interview, which 60 Minutes agreed to. We were then shown the 60 Minutes story which made the CEO look very bad, almost deceptive in his answers, making the company appear quite guilty of it's alleged transgression. We were then shown the unedited tape from the CEO's own camera. It was shocking how much had been edited out! The man's answers were usually cut short, not showing his full response/explanation. This editing of course allowed 60 Minutes to spin the story they wanted to tell. If you saw the CEO's full interview you came a very different conclusion.

Edit: ALL news organizations are guilty of this so I'm not picking sides. Journalism today would make William Randolph Hearst proud!
It's too bad I haven't been able to see both videos.

The issue I brought up about 60 Minutes are two news stories they themselves ran which contradict each other with them airing only a few months apart. We're not talking years here. And the same reporter did both stories. For all those that have disregarded the Fake News cries from Trump, you have to say this should give you all pause about whether Trump has a point or not.
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It's too bad I haven't been able to see both videos.

The issue I brought up about 60 Minutes are two news stories they themselves ran which contradict each other with them airing only a few months apart. We're not talking years here. And the same reporter did both stories. For all those that have disregarded the Fake News cries from Trump, you have to say this should give you all pause about whether Trump has a point or not.
Understood! Simply relying my experience and what opened my eyes to what "journalism' really is.
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At 3 a.m. on the morning of October 28th, 1940, Emanuele Grazzi, the Italian ambassador to Greece, delivered an ultimatum from Benito Mussolini to Prime Minister Ioannis Metaxas. Il Duce demanded that Metaxas allow the Italian army free passage to enter and occupy strategic sites in Greece unopposed.

Faced with this demand, Metaxas delivered an unequivocal response in French, the diplomatic language of the day, “Alors, c’est la guerre.” This brief phrase, “Then, it is war,” was quickly transmuted into the laconic “Oxi,” the Greek for no, by the citizens of Athens.

At 5:30 a.m., before the ultimatum had even expired, the Italian army poured over the Greek-Albanian border into the mountainous Pindos region of Northern Greece. There they met fierce and unexpected resistance.
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Spot on, a real bad ass. Not to mention he was a decorated Vietnam War vet. Well, I guess he wasn't, but if it wasn't for that wart, corn, or thing on his foot that prevented him from serving I'm certain he would have been the most decorated vet ever. Just not fair.
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