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      01-13-2014, 04:52 PM   #199
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      01-13-2014, 04:59 PM   #200
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MANUAL OPTION! THIS THING IS A NASTY!!!
Not understanding the M4 comparison guys this thing is a supercar eater

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      01-13-2014, 05:06 PM   #201
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Agreed on the cost and availability of aftermarket upgrades being a factor, but these two statements I left makes it very clear that you and I value very different things when it comes to the cars we drive. If you have a car that you can't come even remotely close to experiencing its potential on the road AND you're not willing to drive it on the track, you're wasting both your money and a car IMHO. Of course lots of rich people do that with exotics, but that doesn't make it any less sad. Given the number and variety of cars out there, I don't see the point of either keeping a Viper as a road-only car or having both a Viper and a Z06. If I'm to have two performance monsters, I'd rather there be a larger difference between them.

Whoa whoa whoa. When did I say I was unwilling to take my car to the track? I've tracked my Current Viper a few times now. It's just that ultimately I would like to have a dedicated track car that I care less about running into a wall or something. An older Z06 would fit that bill nicely.

I could always get a Miata to track, but that would be fairly boring.
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      01-13-2014, 05:28 PM   #202
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Hey BMW - check out fkng screen integration and cockpit!!

Is there a car even remotely close to this bumblebee in BMW pipeline?
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      01-13-2014, 06:06 PM   #203
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      01-13-2014, 06:09 PM   #204
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Hey BMW - check out fkng screen integration and cockpit!!

Is there a car even remotely close to this bumblebee in BMW pipeline?
Of course not. They're to busy coming up with an LCI with LED taillights for the 2016.75 M3/M4
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      01-13-2014, 06:15 PM   #205
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LOL. That is not even remotely comparable. It might sound crazy to someone that hasn't had to do it, but once you spend a few days driving around in a car that is as much of a hassle to get in and out of as a Vette/Viper/(GT-R possibly too?) Then you would get why people don't DD them. It sounds trivial but honestly it sucks and becomes very cumbersome.
Yea to someone that has World Cup soccer legs to handle a clutch firm enough to stand on and a Hurst SS that takes arms of Hercules, then maybe, yes it's not even remotely close. Hey, we'll just have to agree to disagree

So...why are we comparing this super car (C7 Z06) to the M4 again?
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      01-13-2014, 06:31 PM   #206
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oh my. That actually looks good.
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      01-13-2014, 06:32 PM   #207
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So...why are we comparing this super car (C7 Z06) to the M4 again?
Because we're talking about the C7 Z06 on M3Post, of course!

(And because I think this is the first time that a Corvette might be under serious consideration as a next car for a good number of current M3 owners, myself included.)
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      01-13-2014, 07:03 PM   #208
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^^ Do you think this Z06 is going to trump the M3/4 in every category measured? (e.g. track, skid pad, braking, price, steering feel, maintenance, sound, awards etc...)

At this point it's all speculation but the only thing that I can see the M3/4 have over this Z06 is a slight nudge in refinement and 4 seats.
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      01-13-2014, 07:09 PM   #209
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^^ Do you think this Z06 is going to trump the M3/4 in every category measured? (e.g. track, skid pad, braking, price, steering feel, maintenance, sound, awards etc...)
It's very likely. The Mustang GT matches or beats the current M3 (to say nothing of the Boss 302), so a Z06 should have no problem handling the upcoming M3. Steering feel and awards are impossible to predict, and both are subjective. I'm not sure what you mean about maintenance, but if you mean cost to maintain, it will likely be less -- though your tire and brake costs will likely be higher! Sound is also subjective, but from my standpoint, while I'm sure the (somewhat) high-revving straight-six turbo in the M3/4 won't sound downright bad, it's awfully hard to imagine it sounding better than a large-displacement supercharged V8.
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      01-13-2014, 07:16 PM   #210
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I just realized to my amazement that despite appearances, the Corvette is 5 inches SHORTER front to back than an E92, and 7 inches shorter than the F82!
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Hey BMW - check out fkng screen integration and cockpit!!

Is there a car even remotely close to this bumblebee in BMW pipeline?
Of course not. They're to busy coming up with an LCI with LED taillights for the 2016.75 M3/M4
or even worse - an I3 ctrl w/samsung wanna b Iwatch bs and crying for cost sharing to develop a true enthusiast car ... Christ
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      01-13-2014, 07:24 PM   #212
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LOL. That is not even remotely comparable. It might sound crazy to someone that hasn't had to do it, but once you spend a few days driving around in a car that is as much of a hassle to get in and out of as a Vette/Viper/(GT-R possibly too?) Then you would get why people don't DD them. It sounds trivial but honestly it sucks and becomes very cumbersome.
For once I have to agree. I daily my Backdraft to work.....1 day a month But then again the 06 Viper is like a Caddy compared to my Backdraft.
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Hey BMW - check out fkng screen integration and cockpit!!

Is there a car even remotely close to this bumblebee in BMW pipeline?
Of course not. They're to busy coming up with an LCI with LED taillights for the 2016.75 M3/M4
BMW is probably too busy wondering where to put the next M badge.
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      01-13-2014, 08:53 PM   #214
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What I like about this interior is that it makes the statement "F-U Passenger. This is all about the driver." It almost looks like they put that divider in there with a hand grip for the passenger to hang on to for dear life.
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      01-13-2014, 09:02 PM   #215
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What I like about this interior is that it makes the statement "F-U Passenger. This is all about the driver." It almost looks like they put that divider in there with a hand grip for the passenger to hang on to for dear life.


Its very driver oriented.
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BMW is probably too busy wondering where to put the next M badge.
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      01-13-2014, 10:21 PM   #218
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      01-13-2014, 10:58 PM   #219
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Same here. My Z06 was my DD for 5yrs. Best daily ever
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Then I'm out of my mind, because I will daily drive that bitch all day long.
I DD my 09 Z06
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      01-13-2014, 11:16 PM   #220
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My bad, you're right. So looks like the car we are actually seeing at this unveiling is going to be right around ZR1 pricing.
Uhhh...???

The current ZR1 starts at $112k and goes up from there.

Car & Driver said with every option put on the new Z06, it will still be under $100k.

So you looking minimum starting pricing $20k below the current ZR1.
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