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      08-15-2017, 04:05 PM   #45
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more info from BMW AG's press release today...

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Woodcliff Lake, N.J. – August 15, 2017…BMW will unveil two concept vehicles during the annual Press Conference at 10:00 AM on August 17th, at the Lodge at Pebble Beach Concours d’Elegance Reviewing Stand area on the 18th green. Speakers will include Bernhard Kuhnt, new President & CEO BMW of North America and Adrian van Hooydonk, BMW Group Head of Design. After the North American premiere on April 17th, the BMW Concept 8 Series will be shown publicly at The Quail, A Motorsports Gathering on Friday, August, 18th and on the Concept Lawn at the Pebble Beach Concours d’Elegance on Sunday August 20th. The World Premiere BMW Concept will have its only North American public showing on the Concept Lawn of the Pebble Beach Concours d’Elegance on Sunday August, 20th.
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looks damn nice to me!

f-type who?
It'll have to be considerably wider to look more appealing than the F-Type. Width is what gives the F-Type more presence than cars like the SLC, Z4, 718 or even the 911. If it's relatively narrow like the E85 and E89 it's going to end up looking puny and low rent next to an F-Type. This is coming from someone that's had an E89. If BMW wants potential F-Type customers to opt for the new Z4 they better make it at least 74" wide if not 75.7" like the F-Type. And it's not just the presence they need to worry about - the F-Type (both V6 and V8) sounds unlike any BMW made in the last decade.
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Ooooh. Looks very interesting! Please bring a manual M version.
Yes, and take my money already!
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Everything depends on the motor and the price. If it's 330hp or whatever with a price of $75k, it will be a joke like all other BMW pricing right now. I have very little faith this thing will even be remotely competitive at its price point, but I sure hope I'm wrong as I love Zs.

I also sincerely hope those rear tires are that big! I can barely fit a 275 on my Z4M.
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Is that the KIA stingray? Lol
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Aggressive and modern, much better then i expected.
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      08-15-2017, 06:16 PM   #51
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You can see direct influences from the Vision ConnectedDrive/328 Hommage in the car. Although both of these concepts are around almost seven years old.
So their ideas are more refined and progressive in the new Z4.
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I'm a bit lost though, I thought the new Z4 was coming out in 2018 and the official reveal was supposed to be in a couple days. Now the "concept" is being revealed? Is this actually the car being released or just another concept vehicle?

I'm sick of looking at pictures of cars in black and white camo! lol
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Some things that I see which fairly certain everyone has pointed out already!!
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im personally not a fan of the head lights...

I hope they make a fixed hard top version too
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      08-15-2017, 07:22 PM   #56
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Ooooh. Looks very interesting! Please bring a manual M version.
Would they? Could they?
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So does the rear end look like this?
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Hmmm - weird sorta 'toad-like" grin - not sure what to make of that - will just need to see the real thing I guess!

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So does the rear end look like this?
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Everything depends on the motor and the price. If it's 330hp or whatever with a price of $75k, it will be a joke like all other BMW pricing right now. I have very little faith this thing will even be remotely competitive at its price point, but I sure hope I'm wrong as I love Zs.

I also sincerely hope those rear tires are that big! I can barely fit a 275 on my Z4M.
Couldn't agree more. About $65k almost fully loaded and I will get one.
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So does the rear end look like this?
Is that not the i8 Spider?
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Couldn't agree more. About $65k almost fully loaded and I will get one.
Well the last Z4 35is topped out at $76k, so it's unlikely the newer one, with more power, more features, and carbon fiber construction, is going to be $10k less. I had one of those $76k 35is's, and it's the only car I've ever missed after selling it. I've had dozens of cars in my lifetime, and none of them even came close to amount of positive attention that car got. It was gorgeous. The people who complain about the price never owned one, I had multiple people stop me as I'd park to talk about the car, assuming it was $100k+. The right model, color and equipment and it looked the part.
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Well the last Z4 35is topped out at $76k, so it's unlikely the newer one, with more power, more features, and carbon fiber construction, is going to be $10k less. I had one of those $76k 35is's, and it's the only car I've ever missed after selling it. I've had dozens of cars in my lifetime, and none of them even came close to amount of positive attention that car got. It was gorgeous. The people who complain about the price never owned one, I had multiple people stop me as I'd park to talk about the car, assuming it was $100k+. The right model, color and equipment and it looked the part.
I had a 35i ... paid about $65k (almost fully loaded), so MSRP was a bit higher. Totally agree, gorgeous car, people commented on it, ... Melbourne Red. Also was sorry to let it go. Every now and then I see one on the road and I almost tear up a bit (almost) ...
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It'll have to be considerably wider to look more appealing than the F-Type. Width is what gives the F-Type more presence than cars like the SLC, Z4, 718 or even the 911. If it's relatively narrow like the E85 and E89 it's going to end up looking puny and low rent next to an F-Type. This is coming from someone that's had an E89. If BMW wants potential F-Type customers to opt for the new Z4 they better make it at least 74" wide if not 75.7" like the F-Type. And it's not just the presence they need to worry about - the F-Type (both V6 and V8) sounds unlike any BMW made in the last decade.
Agreed on the sound front - that and the overall look are the main strengths of the F type. The steering is pretty numb, for example.

Not sure BMW is too worried le concerned about sound though, if the recent cars are any indication.
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I'm a bit lost though, I thought the new Z4 was coming out in 2018 and the official reveal was supposed to be in a couple days. Now the "concept" is being revealed? Is this actually the car being released or just another concept vehicle?

I'm sick of looking at pictures of cars in black and white camo! lol
This is the same question I asked earlier in the thread - a concept at this point seems strange ?
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