Thinking about an X5D

[JMWhite]

I own a 335d That is getting tuned right now, Cant wait!!

Now we are thinking about getting an X5 with the 3 liter I6 (m57 I believe) from there we would do a CBU clean and tune it the same as the 335d with a new exaust etc.

I am looking for an X5 with a third row also! Is there a package I should be looking for, also what year did the third row option become available?


Bonus question... Is there a best year of an x5d for tuneability?

[jiggz]

Originally Posted by JMWhite

I own a 335d That is getting tuned right now, Cant wait!!

Now we are thinking about getting an X5 with the 3 liter I6 (m57 I believe) from there we would do a CBU clean and tune it the same as the 335d with a new exaust etc.

I am looking for an X5 with a third row also! Is there a package I should be looking for, also what year did the third row option become available?


Bonus question... Is there a best year of an x5d for tuneability?

The 3rd row option was available every E70 model year, 2007-2013.

You can get the Sport Package with the 35d, but not the M Sport Package. And yes, you should look for one with the Sport Package

No best year for tenability, it's the same M57 engine regardless of year.

Edit - this one might have more miles than you want, but it's modded perfectly with some nice upgrades, if you're into that stuff.
http://www.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1312125

[socale39]

The power trains are slightly different between years. The earlier model diesels were single turbo while later models went to twin turbo. I would stick with 2011 or newer as there are a lot more improvements beyond just aesthetics.

[gixxerboy63]

Mine is now up for sale
Full LCI lighting conversion with body colored trim, 22" wheels, 3rd row, backup camera and more...;

http://www.xbimmers.com/forums/showt...1190243&page=5

[3tekcorps]

Originally Posted by socale39

The power trains are slightly different between years. The earlier model diesels were single turbo while later models went to twin turbo. I would stick with 2011 or newer as there are a lot more improvements beyond just aesthetics.

Are there major changes between 2010 and 2011 in the powertrain? I'm looking at these and the 2010 model seem like a steal compared to the 2012! Or is that just more depreciation?

[jiggz]

Originally Posted by 3tekcorps

Are there major changes between 2010 and 2011 in the powertrain? I'm looking at these and the 2010 model seem like a steal compared to the 2012! Or is that just more depreciation?

I never realized the diesel powertrain changed from 2010 to 2011...I know the other non ///M E70 models got entirely new engines in 2011.

With that said, a lot of what you're seeing is the model year difference. For the past few years, it seems like each model year newer commands another 5-7K, based on those I look at.

[3tekcorps]

Originally Posted by jiggz

I never realized the diesel powertrain changed from 2010 to 2011...I know the other non ///M E70 models got entirely new engines in 2011.

With that said, a lot of what you're seeing is the model year difference. For the past few years, it seems like each model year newer commands another 5-7K, based on those I look at.

So is there a big change? I swear I read somewhere there was a big change to the intake system on the diesel around this time, but can't find it again.

I'm looking for one and there's huge differences in prices between a 2010 and a CPO 2012 locally. Like $10,000 -$20,000 at times. Is a 2012 CPO really worth that kind of premium?

[smass]

2009 - 2013 E70 diesels are all the same M57 twin turbo engine. The 2009 had CCC idrive but included Adaptive Drive with the sport package. 2010+ AD was a stand alone $3500 option and thus it is very rare. In general, major options such as 3rd row are easier to find in earlier models rather than later ones.

[jiggz]

Originally Posted by 3tekcorps

So is there a big change? I swear I read somewhere there was a big change to the intake system on the diesel around this time, but can't find it again.

I'm looking for one and there's huge differences in prices between a 2010 and a CPO 2012 locally. Like $10,000 -$20,000 at times. Is a 2012 CPO really worth that kind of premium?

Are you finding a 2012 that has CPO? Couldn't be much warranty left at this point?

Anyhow, yes it's definitely possible to see that big of a difference. I wouldn't compare just the model year, but obviously miles, condition, and then you've got to compare our their configured with packages and options. One that's loaded up will bring a lot more than a stripped down version. If you've got VINs, post 'em up and we can compare.

I would at least get a 2011 so you get the cosmetic LCI updates.

[3tekcorps]

Originally Posted by jiggz

Are you finding a 2012 that has CPO? Couldn't be much warranty left at this point?

Anyhow, yes it's definitely possible to see that big of a difference. I wouldn't compare just the model year, but obviously miles, condition, and then you've got to compare our their configured with packages and options. One that's loaded up will bring a lot more than a stripped down version. If you've got VINs, post 'em up and we can compare.

I would at least get a 2011 so you get the cosmetic LCI updates.

I've seen a few with 20-30K left on CPO like this one. Private party. I'd honestly like a cheaper one so I have money left for other toys. My concern with a cheap one is that it could end up being the most expensive after repairs.

http://eugene.craigslist.org/cto/5805880707.html

[3tekcorps]

Originally Posted by smassey321

2009 - 2013 E70 diesels are all the same M57 twin turbo engine. The 2009 had CCC idrive but included Adaptive Drive with the sport package. 2010+ AD was a stand alone $3500 option and thus it is very rare. In general, major options such as 3rd row are easier to find in earlier models rather than later ones.

What are your thoughts on AD rolling without any warranty? The system seems very complex and some of the parts are really expensive. It sounds like a great system, but I'm not sure I'd want it 8 years old. Just thinking from a costs benefit point of view.

[smass]

Originally Posted by 3tekcorps

What are your thoughts on AD rolling without any warranty? The system seems very complex and some of the parts are really expensive. It sounds like a great system, but I'm not sure I'd want it 8 years old. Just thinking from a costs benefit point of view.

Lots of the 07-09 V8s have AD. There are some issues but I don't think they are common. A few of the posts with issues were from people who lived on bumpy dirt roads. Drive one first and see if you like it.

[jiggz]

Originally Posted by 3tekcorps

I've seen a few with 20-30K left on CPO like this one. Private party. I'd honestly like a cheaper one so I have money left for other toys. My concern with a cheap one is that it could end up being the most expensive after repairs.

http://eugene.craigslist.org/cto/5805880707.html

Keep in mind the CPO warranty expires 2 years after the standard 4 year/50K warranty ends, and that could come long before it hits 100K miles. The current owner should have provided that date in his for sale ad. Unless you drive a ton, I feel safe saying the warranty will likely expire before you drive it to 100K miles. Assuming I interpreted your prior comment correctly?

This one looks clean for sure, but it's pretty low on packages/options. That may not matter to you, but just noting there's a lot of other stuff available.

[smass]

Also, have you seen the 3rd row? I wanted one until I had my 10 year old try to sit back there and he did not fit.

Here is a cheap base model if you just want something to mod.

https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/5858740200.html

Diesels sell for more on the west coast. I lived in Sacramento and was shopping 2 years ago. Ended up buying back east as there is less demand.

[3tekcorps]

Originally Posted by smassey321

Also, have you seen the 3rd row? I wanted one until I had my 10 year old try to sit back there and he did not fit.

Here is a cheap base model if you just want something to mod.

https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/5858740200.html

Diesels sell for more on the west coast. I lived in Sacramento and was shopping 2 years ago. Ended up buying back east as there is less demand.

I'll never use the 3rd row, so I'm not worried. I'll pull it out if possible.

They seem to be highest up in the Pacific Northwest. I was thinking of Texas maybe to avoid the rust.

Wow, that is dirt cheap. Any idea on how long the engines/trans are going to last on these? I know I'll be replaces other bits here and there.

[3tekcorps]

Originally Posted by jiggz

Keep in mind the CPO warranty expires 2 years after the standard 4 year/50K warranty ends, and that could come long before it hits 100K miles. The current owner should have provided that date in his for sale ad. Unless you drive a ton, I feel safe saying the warranty will likely expire before you drive it to 100K miles. Assuming I interpreted your prior comment correctly?

This one looks clean for sure, but it's pretty low on packages/options. That may not matter to you, but just noting there's a lot of other stuff available.

That's a good point. THANK YOU! I'll put about 10-12k a year on it I'd guess. I just can't do another SUV that get's 12 in town and 17 on the freeway even though it might be hard to justify the BMW.

I hate to put this in writing here, but I was about to buy a new Subaru Forester. I was sitting there at the dealership and just couldn't do it. I totally insulted the sales lady and left.

[3tekcorps]

Originally Posted by socale39

The power trains are slightly different between years. The earlier model diesels were single turbo while later models went to twin turbo. I would stick with 2011 or newer as there are a lot more improvements beyond just aesthetics.

Do you have details on this? Is there a major reason to avoid the 2009/2010 model that's documented? Just from a mechanical point of view?

[3tekcorps]

Well then..

So, where's the link to decode the VINs and see all the packages?