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      03-16-2017, 04:13 PM   #45
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I have noticed the XC90s definitely can haul off stuff which I did consider at one point but the reasons of the BMW for myself just went back to the X5. I take it since you didn't obtain the 50i you went possibly to the 35i?
That's correct. I got the 35i. I actually was looking again at the 50i; but between the new car being upside-down and the problems with the 50 engine, I thought to stay pat and look into a Dinan tune or something similar.
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I don't think the 35i is a slouch even stock. If you look at the numbers, it will walk away from some of the quicker SUV's of even 5 years ago. They have more go fast parts for them to. I like V8s and the 50i is the biggest HP I wanted to afford, so it won my monthly payment
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I bought a brand new 50i in 2012, even paid cash for it, but then a year and a half later had an incredible investment opportunity on a rental property so I sold the X5. Ever since I just really missed having an SUV in the stable. So, I found a sweetheart deal on a 35i a couple months ago and voila I'm back in the E70 community and couldn't be happier.

I do miss the massive power of the 50i, but 35i is adequate for my needs. And I have a couple other V8 thoroughbreds in the barn for when I have an urge to satisfy my power fix.
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I bought a brand new 50i in 2012, even paid cash for it, but then a year and a half later had an incredible investment opportunity on a rental property so I sold the X5. Ever since I just really missed having an SUV in the stable. So, I found a sweetheart deal on a 35i a couple months ago and voila I'm back in the E70 community and couldn't be happier.

I do miss the massive power of the 50i, but 35i is adequate for my needs. And I have a couple other V8 thoroughbreds in the barn for when I have an urge to satisfy my power fix.
you make us regular middle class folk feel bad only a few years before I officially paid cash for my e70. So I guess will be optimistic about it
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I actually paid cash for my X5 as well, but I didn't buy it new. Its really a good idea not to borrow money on cars if your situation allows.

I have a 2008 X5 4.8i with every feature (adapative drive, active seats, etc.). Very nice car, but I found its towing power lacking. I have a 22" travel trailer, and have to keep the car in 3-5th depending if I'm on a hill. Can't run in 6th. So I found the power lacking, and fuel economy (7-8mpg)

I'm trading for a 2011 X5M with 40K miles to solve my power problem. I'd rather have a diesel for its economy, but owning a 335D yeah, I'd rather not have a diesel cause their unreliable. haha, I think the X5M is more reliable for towing. I also figure becasue of the significant improvement of low rpm torque vs the 4.8i I should be able to tow in 6th gear and get better fuel economy. Believe it or not more powerful engines often have bettere towing fuel economy (friend gets 10-11mpg with his X5M)
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I actually paid cash for my X5 as well, but I didn't buy it new. Its really a good idea not to borrow money on cars if your situation allows.

I have a 2008 X5 4.8i with every feature (adapative drive, active seats, etc.). Very nice car, but I found its towing power lacking. I have a 22" travel trailer, and have to keep the car in 3-5th depending if I'm on a hill. Can't run in 6th. So I found the power lacking, and fuel economy (7-8mpg)

I'm trading for a 2011 X5M with 40K miles to solve my power problem. I'd rather have a diesel for its economy, but owning a 335D yeah, I'd rather not have a diesel cause their unreliable. haha, I think the X5M is more reliable for towing. I also figure becasue of the significant improvement of low rpm torque vs the 4.8i I should be able to tow in 6th gear and get better fuel economy. Believe it or not more powerful engines often have bettere towing fuel economy (friend gets 10-11mpg with his X5M)
Only because you saw my open, solidly middle class status, wound, and came up with a handful of salt, and a handful of dirt, and shoved both those handfuls into my wound, will I comment on your tow loads. Please take this as though I am speaking in as humbly of a tone as I can convey through an internet forum. Take as little disrespect as you can from this comment, I am concerned for your X, you, and whomever may be on the road with you and your X while towing this load you are describing.

The X5 is not enough truck for that load. If your paying cash for your X's, you need to have the X, then have yourself a pickup (or 8 lug SUV ala Suburban 2500/Ford Excursion), it doesn't even have to be a diesel , think Chevrolet, Ford, Dodge, take your pick. Even a 1500 from those afromentioned 3, or the Japanese, Toyota, and Nissan would be a solid choice. A 22' trailer with a car I assume is in the 8-10,000 lbs range, and IMO you should have yourself two vehicles, because unless you come back and inform me the load is 'only' 5-6,000 lbs, you don't have enough truck for that load.

You don't know my backstory so you may doubt what I am telling you, but I have owned many "HD" trucks over there years, and also having towed many "HD" worthy loads over the years. I also have for the past many years, been a class 8 and lower truck technician, and currently run a heavy equipment shop, for a fleet rated in top 10 in the country last year.
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That's correct. I got the 35i. I actually was looking again at the 50i; but between the new car being upside-down and the problems with the 50 engine, I thought to stay pat and look into a Dinan tune or something similar.
Well since you own a 35i try looking at my thread I posted about the MHD tune

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I don't think the 35i is a slouch even stock. If you look at the numbers, it will walk away from some of the quicker SUV's of even 5 years ago. They have more go fast parts for them to. I like V8s and the 50i is the biggest HP I wanted to afford, so it won my monthly payment
Yeah I enjoyed my 35i when it wasn't tune but as we ALL know once any vehicle is tuned it's a lot more fun

How do you enjoy the 50? Does it live up to your expectations for a fast SUV?
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I bought a brand new 50i in 2012, even paid cash for it, but then a year and a half later had an incredible investment opportunity on a rental property so I sold the X5. Ever since I just really missed having an SUV in the stable. So, I found a sweetheart deal on a 35i a couple months ago and voila I'm back in the E70 community and couldn't be happier.

I do miss the massive power of the 50i, but 35i is adequate for my needs. And I have a couple other V8 thoroughbreds in the barn for when I have an urge to satisfy my power fix.
One day I'd love to pay cash for a brand new vehicle, but that's awesome you got back into another X5. Granted the stock differences from the 35i vs 50i is huge. Maybe consider tuning the 35i to help fix that power need without touching those v8s you might be surprised what happens when these turbo engines wake up
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I actually paid cash for my X5 as well, but I didn't buy it new. Its really a good idea not to borrow money on cars if your situation allows.

I have a 2008 X5 4.8i with every feature (adapative drive, active seats, etc.). Very nice car, but I found its towing power lacking. I have a 22" travel trailer, and have to keep the car in 3-5th depending if I'm on a hill. Can't run in 6th. So I found the power lacking, and fuel economy (7-8mpg)

I'm trading for a 2011 X5M with 40K miles to solve my power problem. I'd rather have a diesel for its economy, but owning a 335D yeah, I'd rather not have a diesel cause their unreliable. haha, I think the X5M is more reliable for towing. I also figure becasue of the significant improvement of low rpm torque vs the 4.8i I should be able to tow in 6th gear and get better fuel economy. Believe it or not more powerful engines often have bettere towing fuel economy (friend gets 10-11mpg with his X5M)
Well definitely upload pics of that X5M when you get it I've always been a fan of the Ms. They look super aggressive factory, which I wish the non-Ms had more of better aggressive look.

My neighbor had an 08 48i but now has the F15 35i which she enjoys more so. I think due to the new look, features and etc. towing isn't in her mindset at all I'm sure
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Yeah I enjoyed my 35i when it wasn't tune but as we ALL know once any vehicle is tuned it's a lot more fun

How do you enjoy the 50? Does it live up to your expectations for a fast SUV?
Yes. Though I think a lot of the speed is masked by the high quality chassis and suspension. Those who have had previous BMW's may not understand what I mean, but those who have owned or currently own select American cars understand what I mean. I will grab some dyno numbers and quarter time for this truck car thing at some point.
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I bought my BMW because we had already had 1 (a 2011 335i Msport) and we knew we had to get a more practical vehicle. We decided to get our 2013 35d because it handled great for it's size, was pretty quick, and had tons of space.
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Paying cash for a brand new car is actually the opposite of what you want to do from a financial standpoint. Let's look at it from a few standpoints:

1) You'll take a depreciation hit soon after driving off the lot. In my opinion, buy a low mileage CPO and you'll get nearly all the benefits of having a new/newer car for 20-40% less.
2) Financing rates on new cars is usually so low, the amount you pay for that loan only accounts for a very small percentage of what you paid for the vehicle
3) Instead of using the cash towards an investment that will give you a return, you've locked your cash into a negative returning asset.

We all know that a vehicle is not an investment so from a financial standpoint why not mitigate your loss. Take half of a $60k purchase and put it into a conservative growth investment earning 8%. Not only will you cover all those taxes and fees from the initial purchase, but you'll also cover the interest charges of the loan for the entire duration of the terms. But more importantly, you now have a lump sum of cash sitting in an investment earning a return offsetting your expenses. Extrapolate that lump sum over a longer period of time and the benefits clearly out weigh the paying cash for new tractic.

If anything, let those more fortunate than you pay the full price of a vehicle and take the loss. Pickup a low mileage CPO and put more into an investment to give up a vehicle with a little more miles.
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and that's one of the reasons I went M3 you'd have to spend lots of money to get a 335 to look and perform like an M3 plus the possibility of repair costs. in the end I parted ways with the best car I've owned... and I've owned lots But my e70 is just about the right balance of vehicle for me right now. BMW is the absolute best regarding aesthetics, performance, reliability and value


I did the early e70 x5m wheel's, I have KV3's waiting to go on....

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Damn! First time seeing X5M wheels on a non-X5M! I like the look,....but believe it or not,..I also like the 50i Sport wheel look!
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Bump for a good thread lol
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Paying cash for a brand new car is actually the opposite of what you want to do from a financial standpoint. Let's look at it from a few standpoints:

1) You'll take a depreciation hit soon after driving off the lot. In my opinion, buy a low mileage CPO and you'll get nearly all the benefits of having a new/newer car for 20-40% less.
2) Financing rates on new cars is usually so low, the amount you pay for that loan only accounts for a very small percentage of what you paid for the vehicle
3) Instead of using the cash towards an investment that will give you a return, you've locked your cash into a negative returning asset.

We all know that a vehicle is not an investment so from a financial standpoint why not mitigate your loss. Take half of a $60k purchase and put it into a conservative growth investment earning 8%. Not only will you cover all those taxes and fees from the initial purchase, but you'll also cover the interest charges of the loan for the entire duration of the terms. But more importantly, you now have a lump sum of cash sitting in an investment earning a return offsetting your expenses. Extrapolate that lump sum over a longer period of time and the benefits clearly out weigh the paying cash for new tractic.

If anything, let those more fortunate than you pay the full price of a vehicle and take the loss. Pickup a low mileage CPO and put more into an investment to give up a vehicle with a little more miles.

THIS guy is right! Listen to him!
That's why I paid CASH for a 3 year old X5 50i. It had already depreciated a bunch, I got more car than I could afford new, and I paid no interest.
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