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Finally picked up my new 2012 X5M two weeks ago and it has been an amazing few weeks.
Back in February I ordered a new 2012 X5 50i and at the time I looked at the M, but decided to try the 50i and see if it fit my needs and provided the performance and efficiency I was looking for. Although it has lived up to all my expectations, I have always had a lingering feeling that maybe I should have gone with the M instead. Well, it got the better of me and I decided it was time to upgrade. I still have my 50i and I have been alternating between the two of them regularly for comparison purposes. Below are some of my observations so far… As far as options are concerned the M is fully loaded and the 50i is lightly equipped. Of all the additional options on the M my favorites are the Adaptive drive and the full leather interior. A brief review of some of the options is below: Head-up Display: Nice, but not a must have for me. Had it on my M5 as well and found myself not using it much then either. I find it most useful when navigation is on and instructions are right in front of you. The M drive display looks cool, but I still prefer watching the real tach when driving aggressively. Premium Sound Package: A few nice features like the equalizer and surround mode, but it is not significantly better than the high-fi system on the 50i. Overall a very nice system, but I would be perfectly happy without it. Multi-Contour Seats: Infinite adjustability and very easy to find the perfect driving position. I like the sport seats in the 50i as well, but these allow a little more fine tuning which is nice. The side bolsters on the lower cushion are smaller than the sport seats with makes entrance and exit from the vehicle slightly easier as well. Active Ventilated Seat Package: I really like this feature and think it is more effective than most people think. This is not intended to blow out cold air like the dash vents, but merely to circulate air between the seat and your back. It is very noticeable when wearing very thin clothing and works as advertised. A bit on the noisy side when set to max, but not enough to be a problem. Active Seat (for driver): Haven’t even pressed the button so I can’t comment on this one. Cold Weather Package: Weather has been warm and haven’t tested the heated steering wheel or heated rear seats. Soft-close Automatic Doors: A very neat feature which I am starting to get used to. I find myself leaving the door slightly open on the 50i now which is funny as I never thought this was a very useful option. All my passengers slam the doors as they normally would and I don’t even bother telling them about it. The ones that do hear the mechanism at work ask me what it is, but most don’t even know it is there. Not a must have option. Side-view Camera: I’ve used this twice just to see what it looks like, but I don’t see myself using it much if ever. Not sure what the real point of this is. Full Merino Leather (with Nappa Leather Dashboard and Center Console): This option has the biggest impact on the look and feel of the interior and really sets it apart from the std dash. There is a very upscale feel which is appreciated by everyone who sits in the car. Whether it is worth $3800 is another question, but there is no denying the impact it has on the interior. Very nice option. Driving experience: So far I have only accumulated 500 miles on the M, but it is very clear that it is built for an entirely different purpose when compared to the 50i. The various settings for throttle, steering, edc, etc. really transform the car at the push of a button. All comments below are with the M set to default “comfort” settings for everything. The first thing I noticed when getting behind the wheel is the sound of the exhaust which is very different from the 50i. The 50i sounds like a traditional V8 and has an amazing cold-start sound. The M has a very unique sound during cold-start but it is not as loud and very different in tone. Once the M begins to warm up the revs drop and it becomes significantly quieter than the 50i which always has a very present exhaust note in the cabin. During normal around town driving the exhaust is always present in the 50i and not so on the M. The next most obvious difference between the two is the steering feel. At first I was amazed at how different the two of them feel. The 50i has a very heavy steering wheel feel at any speed and very nice feedback. The M on the other hand has one of the lightest steering wheels I have experienced during low speed maneuvering. The feel is quite artificial and takes a bit to get used to. Once the speed increases, the weight increases and it quickly matches the 50i in feedback and precision. It is constantly varying which is the opposite of how I would like it. I prefer the very predictable constant weight on the 50i. The next difference between the two is the engine and power delivery. Again, I was very surprised to see how different the engines behave in similar driving situations. Granted the 50i has the 8speed auto and the M has the 6speed auto, but even when driving them in manual mode in the same gear they feel very different. The 50i always has a feeling of immediately available torque at low revs. During daily driving you can apply slightly more throttle and regardless of speed or gear get a nice surge of torque and speed builds very quickly. The M develops its power very differently and feels slightly weaker at low revs but more capable as the revs begin to build. I sometimes find myself dropping a gear to get the same surge I get in the 50i when driving around town. I haven’t driven the M to its maximum potential, but it is clear that the engine really comes on strong at higher rpm which is the biggest weakness of the 50i. The last significant difference between the two is the adaptive drive which really transforms the M into an M. With EDC set to comfort it is very comparable to the std suspension on 50i and not a huge improvement in ride comfort. With EDC set to sport however, the suspension firms up considerably and body roll becomes non-existent. The already good handling characteristics are increased considerably and this is where the two vehicles really become very different. The steering weight increases yet again and the body is precisely controlled through corners and any high speed maneuvers. Lane change speed increases dramatically and you are always in complete control. Very noticeable when driving the two back to back. When the M settings are configured to maximum aggressiveness the true personality of this vehicle really comes into focus. The responsiveness of the throttle, steering, suspension increase along with the change in exhaust note to really transform it into a truly unique feat of engineering. It is undoubtedly a true M which instantly puts a smile on your face and leaves passengers wondering “what just happened?” This is how this vehicle was intended to be configured and driven. As a side note, fuel consumption on my usual route of 80/20 highway/city split with heavy traffic on my commute home is right at 15mpg which is almost the same I get on the 50i. One big adjustment I have made is the speed at which I set the cruise control. On the 50i I set it at 75mph and rpm are well below 2K, but on the M I have to set it to 65mph to be right at 2K rpm. The 8speed really makes a difference here. I also noticed that on the M the mpg immediately begins to drop when driving more aggressively. So far I have been able to stretch a tank of gas to 300 miles which is very respectable compared to the 50i considering it has 2 less gears. It is nowhere near as bad as I thought it would be after reading the horrible numbers posted by some members on here. So far I am very happy with the upgrade and look forward to making it even better with a few upgrades! I have already installed the black performance grille and have more planned for the future! A few pics I took are below... Last edited by Maxx2; 09-17-2012 at 05:28 AM.. |
09-16-2012, 10:13 PM | #2 |
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Very interesting and insightful comparison. Thank you! I have been looking into M as well for my next truck/car. Nice X5 collection btw.
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Great write up...
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great write up can we see a pic of the 5.0 or maybe even side to side...ala little photo shoot
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ps sounds like u might like the 5.0 power delivery a bit more....dont get rid of it just yet!
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If on the other hand I feel like having some all out fun there is no doubt in my mind which keys I'm going to grab!! With the M set to all out attack mode there is no comparison... |
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Wow. A friend of mine (who has the same X6 as me) and I were just talking about how we thought maybe the M would have been a better choice. Our main issue is the lag when asking for power around 2K. Off the line and almost any other time, the power is perfect. My specific comments/questions to your observations. Note I have an X6 50i with a lot of options (not loaded but close).
Head-up Display:Nice, but not a must have for me. Had it on my M5 as well and found myself not using it much then either. I find it most useful when navigation is on and instructions are right in front of you. Really? I also had it in my M5 and became addicted to it. I can't imagine having a car without it. Maybe because the steering wheel blocks my speed, but it is just so nice to have. Premium Sound Package:A few nice features like the equalizer and surround mode, but it is not significantly better than the high-fi system on the 50i. No way - are you saying you have the base sound system in the 50i and it is similar? I have the upgraded sound in my X6 and think it sounds amazing. That's pretty darn cool that the base system is that good (although I'm out the cash ) Multi-Contour Seats:Infinite adjustability and very easy to find the perfect driving position. I like the sport seats in the 50i as well, but these allow a little more fine tuning which is nice. The side bolsters on the lower cushion are smaller than the sport seats with makes entrance and exit from the vehicle slightly easier as well. If I had the sport seats my wife (5' 2" would never be able to get in or out of the car. However the multi-contour seats while very comfortable, cause my legs and back to go into spasms at exactly the 3 hour mark. I then need to take a 20 minute break and I'm good for another 3 hours. Active Ventilated Seat Package:I really like this feature and think it is more effective than most people think. This is not intended to blow out cold air like the dash vents, but merely to circulate air between the seat and your back. It is very noticeable when wearing very thin clothing and works as advertised. A bit on the noisy side when set to max, but not enough to be a problem. Count me in on the other side of this. I think they are worthless. Not sure where you live - but maybe it has something to do with humidity. I'm thinking in drier areas they might do better? Active Seat (for driver):Haven’t even pressed the button so I can’t comment on this one. Remember what I said about the 3 hour mark? Press this button and you will get there in 30 minutes. It is like torture. Cold Weather Package:Weather has been warm and haven’t tested the heated steering wheel or heated rear seats. Heated steering wheel is probably the best darn feature in this car. Soft-close Automatic Doors:A very neat feature which I am starting to get used to. I find myself leaving the door slightly open on the 50i now which is funny as I never thought this was a very useful option. All my passengers slam the doors as they normally would and I don’t even bother telling them about it. The ones that do hear the mechanism at work ask me what it is, but most don’t even know it is there. Not a must have option. Still for $600 I so wish I had ordered. Didn't know how nice this feature was until I had to deal with it during the PCD. Side-view Camera:I’ve used this twice just to see what it looks like, but I don’t see myself using it much if ever. Not sure what the real point of this is. Worthless - unless you live in an big city and are pulling out of parking garages onto streets a lot. I've used mine twice for this and been very impressed. Oh yes, also pulling out into a blind street (say you are crossing a street and the traffic nearest you has let you go, but now you need to look into the opposite direction without putting the entire hood of your car in harms way. Then this feature works and works nicely. I still would not pay for it, but as part of a package it is ok. Full Merino Leather (with Nappa Leather Dashboard and Center Console): This option has the biggest impact on the look and feel of the interior and really sets it apart from the std dash. There is a very upscale feel which is appreciated by everyone who sits in the car. Whether it is worth $3800 is another question, but there is no denying the impact it has on the interior. Very nice option. The dash in my $84K X6 is not as nice as the dash in my wife's 2006 MDX. The leather dash is so nice - but so expensive. Should be standard. The first thing I noticed when getting behind the wheel is the sound of the exhaust which is very different from the 50i. The 50i sounds like a traditional V8 and has an amazing cold-start sound. The M has a very unique sound during cold-start but it is not as loud and very different in tone. Once the M begins to warm up the revs drop and it becomes significantly quieter than the 50i which always has a very present exhaust note in the cabin. During normal around town driving the exhaust is always present in the 50i and not so on the M. Wow, this makes me feel a lot better about my choice. As you know the sound on the 50i is just so sweet. Can't believe the M is quieter. The next most obvious difference between the two is the steering feel. At first I was amazed at how different the two of them feel. The 50i has a very heavy steering wheel feel at any speed and very nice feedback. The M on the other hand has one of the lightest steering wheels I have experienced during low speed maneuvering. The feel is quite artificial and takes a bit to get used to. Once the speed increases, the weight increases and it quickly matches the 50i in feedback and precision. It is constantly varying which is the opposite of how I would like it. I prefer the very predictable constant weight on the 50i. I got the active steering because I found the steering on the X5 (I did not drive an X6 without AS) to be ponderous. I could not believe how hard it was to turn the wheel. Although a nice workout for the arms, I have many tight turns where I live and am positive I would have hated it. The X5M I drove did have nice steering however (lighter). The AS on the X6 (and I'm guessing on the X5) lightens things up nicely, but it is still very direct at speed. The next difference between the two is the engine and power delivery. Again, I was very surprised to see how different the engines behave in similar driving situations. Granted the 50i has the 8speed auto and the M has the 6speed auto, but even when driving them in manual mode in the same gear they feel very different. The 50i always has a feeling of immediately available torque at low revs. During daily driving you can apply slightly more throttle and regardless of speed or gear get a nice surge of torque and speed builds very quickly. The M develops its power very differently and feels slightly weaker at low revs but more capable as the revs begin to build. I sometimes find myself dropping a gear to get the same surge I get in the 50i when driving around town. I haven’t driven the M to its maximum potential, but it is clear that the engine really comes on strong at higher rpm which is the biggest weakness of the 50i. WOW, once again, amazing. I never would have thought this. Per BMW the M actually makes its torque sooner. I'm guessing the 6 speed trans has everything to do with this. I'm shocked (and yet pleased ) The last significant difference between the two is the adaptive drive which really transforms the M into an M. With EDC set to comfort it is very comparable to the std suspension on 50i and not a huge improvement in ride comfort. With EDC set to sport however, the suspension firms up considerably and body roll becomes non-existent. The already good handling characteristics are increased considerably and this is where the two vehicles really become very different. The steering weight increases yet again and the body is precisely controlled through corners and any high speed maneuvers. Lane change speed increases dramatically and you are always in complete control. Very noticeable when driving the two back to back. I got the AD on my X6 (was affordable last year, not so much this year). I honestly did not know the M came with it until a few days ago. I still feel like I'm driving a truck - a very capable truck, but still, a truck. But you do make me feel better about the purchase of this option. When the M settings are configured to maximum aggressiveness the true personality of this vehicle really comes into focus. The responsiveness of the throttle, steering, suspension increase along with the change in exhaust note to really transform it into a truly unique feat of engineering. It is undoubtedly a true M which instantly puts a smile on your face and leaves passengers wondering “what just happened?” This is how this vehicle was intended to be configured and driven. I of course get none of this. My X6 has the M button delete option (called the 50i package) Great post - thank you for the comparison.
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[QUOTE=Maxx2;12699072]Do you have a tune on your M? I will definitely be exploring what the best tunes are in the very near future. Thanks.
Yeah I'm running dinan on mine, it puts out great power and hauls ass but the main reason I went with dinan was for the warranty. This is my daily so I needed it. Def recommend them if you need some assurance incase something breaks. My SA told me stage 2 comes out next spring which I cant wait for. If you dont need the warranty assurance I recommend you look at northern2020's car and Dansarkis' thats the only other way I'd have it |
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Give Velos Designwerks a worthy look. Omar and his team will take very good care of you and warranty isn't even an issue as you can return to stock ECU at any point and it's not detectable.
I am enjoying my Velos flash and yea the Monster is absolutely Jekyll and Hyde.
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Great write up......I have the 50i with ZMP/ZMX and love the instant torque, and the 19mpg ain't bad either. It only has 2000 miles so I expect the engine to loosen up and get better mileage. I always thought the M's biggest negative is the gas mileage, which means 25% more trips to the gas station cuz they didn't increase the tank size. Your fuel mileage pleasantly surprised me.
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On my usual weekly commute I never got more than 15-16mpg on my 50i and my X5M matches that easily. I'm sure the difference would be greater on extended highway trips, but I don't have much of that so I really don't have any complaints. I was pleasantly surprised as well having read many posts regarding the poor gas mileage. I only have 1000 miles on it and I was able to hit 310 miles on my last tank of gas. Not too shabby! I used to have a modified 996 Turbo as a weekend only toy and that was as close to a race car as I've been. The X5M will never compare to that, but it is an extremely capable SAV and makes one hell of a daily driver!! |
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