This is how easily they steal your car...

[X3andZ4owner]

Advertised as "unstealable" by BMW, the top of the line cars are more easily stolen than a toyota.. the key from BMW is very easily copied, didn't know it was this easy.
Im very surprised that BMW still denies the fact that they have a security breach and that the OBD interface is located at an blind zone for the alarm...

[Medihummer]

How is this possible so you can program a key without having an original key or a code for the car?
This is rediculous

[X3andZ4owner]

Originally Posted by Medihummer

How is this possible so you can program a key without having an original key or a code for the car?
This is rediculous

The cars central CPU probably contains all info for this, the CPU can be accessed through the OBD port on the left side of the drivers footwell.
Apparently there is an blind zone for the OEM car alarm thus it can be accessed if breaking a window or fast opening a door because there is a latency in the alarm i found out..

BMW apperently don't have a pin code to connect to the cars software making this very easy to hack i have been told..


In this case BMW is doing as the 3 little monkies.. speak not, see not, hear not....probably because to fix this can become very expensive...
To bad many high end X5 and X6 has been stolen the last year do to this simple security breach making the customers suffer and the customer pay due to higher insurance and loss of the car where the insurancecompany never pay the actual real price, always lower, so the customer loses money when the car is stolen...

[X3andZ4owner]

I advise the you replace the OBD connection somewhere else in the car an leave a dummy on the place of the original, in this was the CPU can not be accessed, and it will take time for the thieves finding the reconnected OBD in the car...

[Biff Grissel]

Damn this is ridiculous. Fingers crossed.

[smyles]

It's the same type of sh..t as with smartphones (and yes, this includes iPhones), where manufacturers leave a backdoor open hoping none of the millions of users won't be interested enough, for one reason or another, to explore and use it for whatever purposes. The only difference is a phone owner is looking at few hundred $$ loss and minor inconvenience at the most, while here the impact is much, much bigger.

I'm sending the link to the video and http://vag-info.com/ to BMWNA. It won't do much, but hopefully some eager law firm sees an opportunity and will light a fire under the BMW a##.

[X3andZ4owner]

Read and weep...

BMW ignores this stating this can't be done....

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[X3andZ4owner]

From UK article:
Steve had CCTV cameras pointed on his BMW and they recorded the thieves smashing the BMW's window and accessing the car's 'OBD port' in the footwell to reprogramme a spare key. A void on the alarm meant the thieves could smash the glass and put their arm into the car without it going off.


http://cars.uk.msn.com/news/new-bmws-at-risk-of-theft

[bulldog_yyc]

Originally Posted by X3andZ4owner

To bad many high end X5 and X6 has been stolen the last year do to this simple security breach making the customers suffer and the customer pay due to higher insurance and loss of the car where the insurancecompany never pay the actual real price, always lower, so the customer loses money when the car is stolen...

not true if you have depreciation waiver (in event of total loss, insured value is paid not depreciated) - but thats for us here in North America, could be different in Europe.

Regardless, this is a disturbing trend. Its even more disappointing that BMW has not stepped up to correct this via a patch/update to the ECU. They are too busy trying to catch people with tunes... LOL

[ek1]

Originally Posted by bulldog x6

not true if you have depreciation waiver (in event of total loss, insured value is paid not depreciated) - but thats for us here in North America, could be different in Europe.

Regardless, this is a disturbing trend. Its even more disappointing that BMW has not stepped up to correct this via a patch/update to the ECU. They are too busy trying to catch people with tunes... LOL

Bulldog - don't know what state you live in, but at least in New York when your vehicle is stolen, it goes on your insurance record as a loss, and once you have a certain amount of losses on your record, the insurance company tries to dump you either by refusing to renew your policy of raising your premium to a ridiculous amount.

[bulldog_yyc]

Originally Posted by ek1

Bulldog - don't know what state you live in, but at least in New York when your vehicle is stolen, it goes on your insurance record as a loss, and once you have a certain amount of losses on your record, the insurance company tries to dump you either by refusing to renew your policy of raising your premium to a ridiculous amount.

makes sense - insurance companies are in the business of making money and they do this via controlling risk.
Anyone with a high number of losses on their record is a perfect example of a high risk liability so not surprising they would eventually be denied coverage.

[Jimshorts]

Awesome news LOL....

[SflBimmer8484]

That was easy!