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      07-05-2012, 10:31 AM   #1
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Question on new BMW navigation. Is it just me, or it really sucks?

Just added a new X5d to my E90 335i. Never thought I will love driving an SUV that much. However, I find that bmw navigation really sucks comparing to others. I haven't played much with it yet, but what I find is that not only it doesn't say street names, it doesn't even display them. To me it's very poor by today's standards. Even my 10 years old Lexus RX has the street names displayed.
Is that the way the newest BMW navigation is, or do I need to read the manual more careful on how to set it up?
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      07-05-2012, 01:22 PM   #2
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mine shows street names.... how much are you zoomed in, and are you using the split screen "Arrow Display" while using Nav?
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      07-05-2012, 01:35 PM   #3
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I'm using a 3D view, no split screen. Don't remember zoom amount, but I haven't changed that - left it as it was by default. How much should I zoom to view the street names?

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      07-05-2012, 05:50 PM   #4
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Lexus navi is the best

BMW: Make a legal u turn, your destination is on your left!
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1) My 5 year old portable Garmin seems to have better software programming than the BMW. But the BMW is adequate.
2) Try reading the Manual. There are a lot of settings, including Map View and Route Preference, which will significantly change your navigation.
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      07-06-2012, 09:39 AM   #6
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100% there is something not right with your settings. Zoom in or out. Possibly you live in a rural area, where there are no "real" streets.
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      07-06-2012, 10:48 AM   #7
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100% there is something not right with your settings. Zoom in or out. Possibly you live in a rural area, where there are no "real" streets.
I palyed with zooming, and after I set it to split screen the street names show up, they are just not pronounced by navi voice. I guess that's the way it is.
Yeah, Los Angeles/Studio City - very rural area with no major streets, lol...
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I'm using a 3D view, no split screen. Don't remember zoom amount, but I haven't changed that - left it as it was by default. How much should I zoom to view the street names?

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I keep it on either 400 or 800 feet. Seems to work best, and I can see street names. Just twist the knob when staring at the map and it will zoom in/out.

When using the nav (i.e. you have a destination set) be sure you have split screen on, and have the "Arrow Display" set as the split screen content ( FYI - "Arrow Display" is not even an option to select unless you have an active destination). That will also show the name of the street you are on, and the name of the street of your next turn.
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BMW has never spoken street names, which is probably a good thing. If you set split screen as described above though it will prompt you and it includes street names listed at top of turn display screen.

Even if split screen is set to say "entertainment", when a turn is imminent it will interrupt the screen with turn information.

These are all in the settings.
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      07-06-2012, 12:13 PM   #10
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Yep, I've already figured it all out - zoom and split screen settings. Thanks very much for your help, guys...
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It is horrific. It has mis-routed me or not been able to find the street address (keeps wanting to change the city) in my last 9 times out of 10. I'm going to start using the Google upload feature from now on. The issue is that I two BMW vehicles and can't figure out how to make it talk to a specific one.
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It is horrific. It has mis-routed me or not been able to find the street address (keeps wanting to change the city) in my last 9 times out of 10. I'm going to start using the Google upload feature from now on. The issue is that I two BMW vehicles and can't figure out how to make it talk to a specific one.
Are you on latest maps? I dont have any issues, but the Google Maps send feature is priceless.

You need to have both cars on different email address. It uses a combo of VIN and email to send to car, if both are registered to same email address it could be an issue.
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Its good if you have HUD, more info comes up on the windscreen.
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BMW has never spoken street names, which is probably a good thing. If you set split screen as described above though it will prompt you and it includes street names listed at top of turn display screen.

Even if split screen is set to say "entertainment", when a turn is imminent it will interrupt the screen with turn information.

These are all in the settings.
Why is that a good thing ? If folks want to use voice prompts for guidance then pronouncing the road name is a good thing ? No ?
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Its good if you have HUD, more info comes up on the windscreen.
That's simply not true. The HUD just replicates info in arrow display.
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Are you on latest maps? I dont have any issues, but the Google Maps send feature is priceless.

You need to have both cars on different email address. It uses a combo of VIN and email to send to car, if both are registered to same email address it could be an issue.
Ever since BMW switched over to teleatlas the routing algorithms have degraded. Navteq routing data was much improved.
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Its good if you have HUD, more info comes up on the windscreen.
Watrob you are right on mate! No need for split screen with HUD Nav Arrow so your display map view is much bigger and that HUD is soooooooooo in your face you cant possibly miss the relevant streets or arrow direction (not to mention the speed your not supposed to be going). I never leave home without HUD.
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Watrob you are right on mate! No need for split screen with HUD Nav Arrow so your display map view is much bigger and that HUD is soooooooooo in your face you cant possibly miss the relevant streets or arrow direction (not to mention the speed your not supposed to be going). I never leave home without HUD.
My HUD is getting a little crowded. I have stop & go (radar) cruise control which is displayed in the HUD and I am also getting the left & right indicator flash coded to show in the HUD.

I have had HUD for so many years now I just about never look down at the cluster.
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It is horrific. It has mis-routed me or not been able to find the street address (keeps wanting to change the city) in my last 9 times out of 10. I'm going to start using the Google upload feature from now on. The issue is that I two BMW vehicles and can't figure out how to make it talk to a specific one.
Entering an address into iDrive is a trainwreck, I could program a space shuttle with fewer twists/clicks. And that's if it can even find it. Half the time it won't even find an address I KNOW exists. Using the BMW App is a godsend. If it weren't for the app, I would lose my mind.

I sincerely feel sorry for people who don't have the app and have to enter an address directly into the car.
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      07-19-2012, 09:01 AM   #20
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I agree Nav is bad. Seems like quite a lag in updating roads. I'd suggest using split screen with arrow as the second screen, than you can adjust the maps distance control to zoom in or out. just wait till you want to upgrade and they charge you an arm + a leg to do the computer install. No DVD. My dealer didn't even realize BMW changed their system.
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Sorry to bump an old thread, but if you thought this was bad, try a Volvo Nav system.

Took a 4 hour trip yesterday into the mountains with a lot of small roads in a 2013 X5 and the vast majority of the instructions were what I would have chosen myself. The only problem was I didn't know how to set it up for next turn arrows and distance to next turn in the split screen.
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